The giant rolling camera becomes the eye away from everybody’s physcal body. If such mechanical contraption proliferates, every robotic desk connected camera becomes a robotic camera server. Before the era of PC, even the experts are skeptical on the purpose of a PC in a domestic settings. Took a relative short time for people to realize PC’s usefulness. Robotic PC is just a more feature-rich PC. Adding functionalities to a PC had been a continuous trend, why resist? [/quote]
Yes, adding functionality to PCs has been and is a continuing trend. But this is just gimmickry. Why would 99% of the population of Earth need an “eye away from [their] physical body”? Can you give any practical uses for this?
What? The difference between Hawking’s wheelchair and your computer desk on wheels is that he needs the wheelchair. You have yet to illustrate why anyone would even want your desk, let alone need one.
My question still stands.[/quote]
Not everybody will know what to do with them at first, it takes a while for the whole idea to sink in. Purchase decisions are often a matter of catching up with the Joneses. It is like suddenly within few years, everybody finds mobile phone indispensable. Deskoid robotic PC is almost like a lego pieces, where user needs to configure this appliance according to their own preferences. I am not inventing a totally brand new device, it is only a platform to make PC and related peripherals work more harmoniously. As a enhanced PC, it will stand out as a better designed product when compared with other regular PC.
Yeah, but first the Joneses have to work out why they want one.
Because they are useful and serve a clear and obvious purpose.
So now what you’re saying is you’ve designed a desk with wheels and a remote control. BFW.
I think I’ve finally worked out the biggest problem here.
What is the purpose? This invention of yours has no clearly defined, obvious purpose or point. That is why it will not succeed. If people can’t work out why they should want it or what they’d do with it, they won’t buy it. The only people I can imagine right now buying something like this would be bleeding-edge computer geeks, and most of them could build this themselves. It’s a glorified case mod.
Yeah, but first the Joneses have to work out why they want one.
Because they are useful and serve a clear and obvious purpose.
So now what you’re saying is you’ve designed a desk with wheels and a remote control. BFW.
I think I’ve finally worked out the biggest problem here.
What is the purpose? This invention of yours has no clearly defined, obvious purpose or point. That is why it will not succeed. If people can’t work out why they should want it or what they’d do with it, they won’t buy it. The only people I can imagine right now buying something like this would be bleeding-edge computer geeks, and most of them could build this themselves. It’s a glorified case mod.[/quote]
The deskoid robotic PC aren’t supposed to have a single well-defined purpose. Just like PC users had utilized their PC in countless ways. The synergistic combination of the on board peripherals will further defined its roles. Unlike most other furnitures in the house, the deskoid are design to move around. Do we really “need” such feature in a PC to complicate our lives? Or may be this is a necessary complication that eventually leads to simpler lives.
That does seem like an obvious solution…
But Deskoid robotic photography is about teleoperated automation of photography. A grand but feasible scheme to enable everybody to gain temporary control access to each other’s camera.
Like move the camera to a particular location, inititate a software routine to take picture that covers 360 degree panoramic. In another word, why take one pic at a time, just let the image capturing robot “sweep” the entire scene, and get to see the whole picture.
[quote=“stragbasher”]I rescued this from the flounder bin as they’ve gone and locked it and this is too much fun to discard completely.
First question with any new product or service: Who are you going to sell it to, other than Toe Save?
Define your market clearly, I dare you.[/quote]
Thanks for the rescue.
It means alot to me.
Deskoid Robotic PC is just a new and improved PC hardware combo.
Any serious discussion on PC can’t be limited to PC itself, other common peripherals needs to be included too. Consequentially, Deskoid Robotic PC are design to accommodate these peripherals more effectively. Its robotic feature is there when needed. It will not interfere with common PC operations. So, this is a situation “new” product in an existing market. There are two aspect in Deskoid’s robotic feature. One is the robotic camera rotational unit, another is the motorized wheels. Both are controlled by programs running on the onboard computer. Giving PC with vision an ability to move around opens the door to many interesting uses. Not all the uses will be appealing immediately to everybody. Ultimately, the practicality will depends on the software written for this hardware. Also, I need to point out that I am not the only way promoting this robotic PC concept. Other more reputable companies had introduced similar technology in a various field such as medical, industrial and military. One of my hope is for software developers to see the pontential in this specialized PC hardware. Of course Microsoft is a great candidate. It is only a matter of time before Xbox becomes a robot that roams in the living room. At this point, I realized it may be too early to consult any typical garden vareity end users. It is almost like showing a microwave oven to a stone age caveman. And the caveman will insist that fire is better.
Which is why you’ll need some launch titles. Look at any new piece of home tech like this: PCs, gaming consoles, etc. They all launch with a range of apps/games that demonstrate the possibilities of the hardware. What’ve you got lined up for this? Got any first-party apps under development to help show people why they need this? Got any third-party developers on board?
Because those fields had demonstrable uses for this technology. You have yet to give any actual uses the average consumer would have for this.
No it’s not. The XBox is a gaming console. That’s what it’s designed to do. It’s a specialised piece of hardware. Why would Microsoft unnecessarily add features when there’s no demand for them, especially when they would raise the price, make an already unnecessarily large piece of hardware bigger, and introduce all sorts of new possibilities for the consumer being injured by malfunction or misuse?
It’s never too early. If they’re the people you’re trying to sell to, you need to tailor it to them, not vice versa. Until you can clearly define your market and the initial uses for the machine, no-one will buy it.
And I like that last little dig - we don’t understand because we’re just not advanced enough? You’re some almighty visionary who’ll lead us into a revoluntionary future so we should just believe you and buy this ill-conceived, (so far) totally pointless, unnecessarily large, and no doubt well over-priced computer on a desk with wheels.
To summarize:
Do you have any software in the pipeline that will demonstrate potential uses for this?
Do you have a clearly defined market?
Do you expect people will buy it just because you tell them to?
Which is why you’ll need some launch titles. Look at any new piece of home tech like this: PCs, gaming consoles, etc. They all launch with a range of apps/games that demonstrate the possibilities of the hardware. What’ve you got lined up for this? Got any first-party apps under development to help show people why they need this? Got any third-party developers on board?
Because those fields had demonstrable uses for this technology. You have yet to give any actual uses the average consumer would have for this.
No it’s not. The XBox is a gaming console. That’s what it’s designed to do. It’s a specialised piece of hardware. Why would Microsoft unnecessarily add features when there’s no demand for them, especially when they would raise the price, make an already unnecessarily large piece of hardware bigger, and introduce all sorts of new possibilities for the consumer being injured by malfunction or misuse?
It’s never too early. If they’re the people you’re trying to sell to, you need to tailor it to them, not vice versa. Until you can clearly define your market and the initial uses for the machine, no-one will buy it.
And I like that last little dig - we don’t understand because we’re just not advanced enough? You’re some almighty visionary who’ll lead us into a revoluntionary future so we should just believe you and buy this ill-conceived, (so far) totally pointless, unnecessarily large, and no doubt well over-priced computer on a desk with wheels.
To summarize:
Do you have any software in the pipeline that will demonstrate potential uses for this?
Do you have a clearly defined market?
Do you expect people will buy it just because you tell them to?[/quote]
Thank you for your continuous interest.
Here is a link to a robotic software company in California, in which partially demostrate the general direction on how robotic PC will be developed. evolution.com/er1/what_function.masn
Earlier this year, I attended a conference at Cambridge Mass. roboticsevents.com/ in which the president of Evolution Robotic hinted that there will be a new product launch before or near Christmas. Their robotic PC software runs on Windows system, and they are one of the major promoter of robotic PC product concept. Their softwares are very sophisticated, but not their robotic hardwares are not.
You realise the ER1 is a hobbyist thing, right? Which means they’re not trying to sell the general public on it, they’re only aiming at a clearly defined market and not claiming it’s some revolution in the way we use computers.
It’s. A. Toy.
Also, that link of yours only says what it can do, not why you would want it to do any of it. Also, it has nothing to do with your product. They have a clearly defined market and know exactly who they’re selling to and why.
Do you?
Again:
[quote=“Tetsuo”]1) Do you have any software in the pipeline that will demonstrate potential uses for this?
2) Do you have a clearly defined market?
3) Do you expect people will buy it just because you tell them to?[/quote]
At this stage of development, defining robot as hobbyist thing is a no brainer. The hobbyist’s market is too limited for such robotic of sophistication to be profittable. It serves as a good stepping stone to a bigger, broader market. In another words, these hobbyists are sort of like unpaid beta testers for their product. Let’s not mistaken them as the company’s main market focus. How do they expect to be profittable? The answer is here evolution.com/product/oem/software/ Promoting their software to other robotic firms.