the truth of the matter is this… believe what you will:
9/11 was a staged attack, allowing the US to wage war on it’s civilians (by stripping them of all liberties and freedoms) and the Middle East.
Now that Harper and his Neo-Con cronies have Canada side by side with the US, the Canadian public is pissed. SO, Canada needs to stage their own 9/11 to get the public to jump on the “war on terror” bandwagon.
The attack will fit nicely in the US/Isreal’s plans to go at Iran in the near future.
Believe what you will… but do the research and it all becomes far too clear.
State sponsored terror is NOTHING NEW. Hitler used it, and it worked like a charm. Pearl Harbour? Read up people… and NOT on CNN.com, or the CBC for that matter.
Call me a conspiracy theorist, that’s what they’ve programmed the drones to do.
I can hardly wait for you to explain how Amhed Ressam, caught at the BC-Washington border with a car full of explosives, on his way to blow up LAX, fits into the Bush-Harper-Hitler equation.
By the way, have you found a store in Taiwan that sells tinfoil hats? If not, you could try a grapefruit peel hat such as the kids wear. It’s just as effective.
[quote=“SpecialEd”]it’s amazing how people swallow propoganda.[/quote]It certainly is.
[quote=“SpecialEd”]the truth of the matter is this… believe what you will:
[/quote]I choose to believe what is supported by facts. And you?
[quote=“SpecialEd”]
9/11 was a staged attack, allowing the US to wage war on it’s civilians (by stripping them of all liberties and freedoms) and the Middle East. [/quote]No it wasn’t. Saying it was does not make it so. Name what specific “…all liberties and freedoms” have been stripped from US civilians? Come on, name them. Iraq & Afghanistan happen to be in the ‘Middle East.’ So what?
[quote=“SpecialEd”]2. Now that Harper and his Neo-Con cronies have Canada side by side with the US, the Canadian public is pissed.[/quote]No they are not. Ans this latest inceident makes them damn glad Harper is where he is.[quote=“SpecialEd”] SO, Canada needs to stage their own 9/11 to get the public to jump on the “war on terror” bandwagon.[/quote]Looks like some Islamofacist terrs share your hopes.[quote=“SpecialEd”]3. The attack will fit nicely in the US/Israel’s plans to go at Iran in the near future.[/quote]Dots. Not. Connecting. Nice try.[quote=“SpecialEd”]Believe what you will… but do the research and it all becomes far too clear.[/quote]Not clear, but a definite pattern has emerged. Have you looked at the names of the individuals involved in this recent Canadian incident? They ain’t Swedish.[quote=“SpecialEd”]State sponsored terror is NOTHING NEW.[/quote]Agree. Common tool of the od Soviet Union. Used by Cuba, N. Korea, Syria, Iran, Iraq and quite a few other facist ruled countries.[quote=“SpecialEd”]Hitler used it, and it worked like a charm.[/quote]Care to provide an example of this? Not saying he didn’t, just asking for an example…Got one or two…just to show a pattern of Hitlers’ use of “State Sponsored Terrorism.” Not acts of war, but terrorism.[quote=“SpecialEd”]Pearl Harbour?[/quote]Again, clarify? This was a terrorist act that led to war.[quote=“SpecialEd”] Read up people… and NOT on CNN.com, or the CBC for that matter.[/quote] And not on DU or Kos or other wack job left-wing weirdo websites I might add.
Ain’t the internet grand?[quote=“SpecialEd”]Call me a conspiracy theorist, that’s what they’ve programmed the drones to do.[/quote]OK, but really, you’re doing well all by yourself. And careful with those drones…they’re watching you…
I think he’s referring to the burning of the Reichstag. The Nazis set it on fire then blamed the Jews. George W. Bush flew the planes into the WTC then blamed Islam. See the connection? Wow, it’s so obvious I can’t believe I didn’t see it right away.
And let’s not forget, George W. Bush flew planes for the National Air Guard. Really, SpecialEd, I’m surprised you left that out - I mean, it’s so clear.
Canada jumped on the “war on terror bandwagon” when LIBERAL Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed Canadian soldiers to Afghanistan in 2002. But, hey, why let facts get in the way of a conspiracy theory?
Well, I am sure glad that he is not standing side-by-side with the Islamic Society of North America like NDP Leader Smiling Jack Layton.
NDP Leader and would-be Prime Minister Jack Layton speaking before the Islamic Society of North America on May 20, 2006.
“We also have to put an end to the security certificates – the security certificates and that whole piece of legislation, Bill C-36, must be thrown out.”
Luc Portelance, Assistant Director of Operations, CSIS on June 3, 2006;
“This is the largest counter-terrorism operation and arrests in Canada since the creation of the Anti-Terrorism Act [C-36] and the amendment of the Criminal Code to better define terrorism.”
I think he’s referring to the burning of the Reichstag. The Nazis set it on fire then blamed the Jews. George W. Bush flew the planes into the WTC then blamed Islam. See the connection? Wow, it’s so obvious I can’t believe I didn’t see it right away.
And let’s not forget, George W. Bush flew planes for the National Air Guard. Really, SpecialEd, I’m surprised you left that out - I mean, it’s so clear.[/quote]Dr. Z -
yeah, I thought he may have been referring to the Reichstag incident, but I wanted to see if he actually did have something.
Or if we were just getting our…crank yanked by…
Well, I have it on good authority that Saddam Hussein orchestrated the whole Canadian terrorist plot from his jail cell in Baghdad and I defy anyone to prove me wrong.
I love irony I wonder how they would have reported the bombing of their own building? Definately a “mere” bombing by “erratic novice chemists” if they follow their own guidelines?
[quote=“Internal memorandum from CBC”]
‘Terrorist’ and ‘terrorism’: Exercise extreme caution before using either word.
Avoid labelling any specific bombing or other assault as a “terrorist act” unless it’s attributed (in a TV or Radio clip, or in a direct quote on the Web). For instance, we should refer to the deadly blast at that nightclub in Bali in October 2002 as an “attack,” not as a “terrorist attack.” The same applies to the Madrid train attacks in March 2004, the London bombings in July 2005 and the attacks against the United States in 2001, which the CBC prefers to call “the Sept. 11 attacks” or some similar expression. (The BBC, Reuters and many others follow similar policies.)
Terrorism generally implies attacks against unarmed civilians for political, religious or some other ideological reason. But it’s a highly controversial term that can leave journalists taking sides in a conflict.
The CBC has never used the word “terrorist” in any of its news reports. It has steadfastly referred to Islamic terrorists as “militants”. Then again, why should one expect any different from that hotbed of political correctness?
[quote=“The Communist Broadcasting Corporation (CBC)”]
Terrorism generally implies attacks against unarmed civilians for political, religious or some other ideological reason. [/quote]
Hello, CBC? Isn’t that what your “militants” have been doing for the last decade?
[quote=“Dr_Zoidberg”]The CBC has never used the word “terrorist” in any of its news reports. It has steadfastly referred to Islamic terrorists as “militants”. Then again, why should one expect any different from that hotbed of political correctness?
[quote=“The Communist Broadcasting Corporation (CBC)”]
Terrorism generally implies attacks against unarmed civilians for political, religious or some other ideological reason. [/quote]
Hello, CBC? Isn’t that what your “militants” have been doing for the last decade?[/quote]
A little off-topic but, dear old Dad is a broadcaster at the CBC, and has been fighting the PCification of the English language there. One item I recall specifically: they wanted him to replace the word “mankind” in his script with “humanity” to make the sentence less sexist. :loco: Of course he refused, as the words have different nuances of meaning. Dad never suffered fools gladly.
On topic: I’m glad these terrorists were nabbed. It’s frightening to think one’s father’s place of work is being specifically targetted for an attack.
Things are truly getting weird in the world when terrorists target Canadians. They’re about the most harmless, helpful people on the planet.
That’s not to say I’m still not concerned about their ability to focus and reason though. Some mighty strange reports have been coming out in recent years about our neighbors to the north – mostly involving out-of-control political correctness. I suppose I could look upon Stephen Harper as adding “a little balance” but that appears to be mere wishful thinking at this point.
I remember when I was growing up my dad always used to say ‘if things ever get really bad, we can always move up to Canada.’ I gave up that illusion a long time ago though.
I think it’s great that they were caught. I know that the Canadians had some help from the Americans (CIA). But that is good let’s work together on this one. So we can catch all militants/terrorists before they act. That way people will see us coming together working together and we will all be better off for it.
I think the way it was handled should be a model for America. Particularly after the problems they encountered after 911. A lot of American intelligence agencies weren’t communicating with one another. So no one knew who the bad guys were. To one agency this guy was good and another he may have been bad. Whereas in Canada we worked together RCMP CSIS and whatever other organizations to apprehend these militants/terrorists.
I think that Canadians on this forum should be proud of what has happened.
I don’t know if the word “proud” describes the feeling. I’m certainly relieved that the authorities prevented the fantatics from exploding a bomb-- three times bigger than Timothy McVeigh’s was as a matter of fact-- in Canada. It says “we” (Canadians) are doing some things right. On the other hand, I have to wonder what has gone wrong with my country, such that people born and raised there could try to take such an action against their own nation. Is it the fault of our education system that people like this could become so misguided, brainwashed and stupid? Is it the fault of our often too liberal outlook-- and irrational fear of appearing bigotted-- that has resulted in an unwillingness to properly investigate the backgrounds of immigrants or the teachings of immams and other religious leaders already in Canada? Where did we go wrong? Kudos to the authorities for thwarting these home-grown terrorists. But I don’t know if this is a proud moment.
Everyone is talking as if it’s a done deal. These men are all guilty… they are Muslim, some have beards, and they’ve been accused.
Does anybody know of any FACTS concerning this case? There’s alot of ‘rah rah we in Canada should be scared’ headlines and stories being thrown around, but few if any solid pieces of evidence and fact, aside from mainly the order of 3 tonnes of soil that was “intercepted” by police.
Something to think about: Soon after 9/11, Canada passed a whole bunch of “anti-terror” laws similar to the US Patriot Act. Now, 5 years later they are up for review, in approximately a week actually. Isn’t that just PERFECT timing as far as Harper is concerned? He now has a 9/11 in his pocket to deflect any question about the tightening up of laws and the restrictions on our freedom.
It’s not a crime to question the Government, it’s our freedom and responsibility. That is what the role of mainstream media is in a democracy, not to simply puppet vague stories and sound bytes the Government gives them without question.
