Come on, You got to love the Republicans! See this article about the Texas republicans.
DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS! WooHoo! Hook 'em Horns!
[quote=“Hobart”]Come on, You got to love the Republicans! See this article about the Texas republicans.
DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS! WooHoo! Hook 'em Horns![/quote]
Unfortunately, these particular Republicans don’t occupy the White House.
Actually, some activists on the far left (you know, those “Free Tibet” and “Eat Crunchy Granola” people) have called for pretty much the same thing. They also don’t occupy the White House, and probably never will.
I also remember when newly-elected Bill Clinton (in his first term) declared that China would have to improve its human rights record or he would cut off their Most Favored Nation trade status. China called his bluff, and he backed down.
So I guess the politicians’ motto is, “I’m all for human rights, but making a buck comes first.”
Color me cynical.
regards,
Robert
As to why the Texas Republican Party wants this there are three potential answers:
- Rich Pro-Independance Taiwanese ex-pats living in Texas have made major contributions to the Tex-as Republicans
- The Texans, harking back to the old John Wayne days, want to get tough on the godless ChiComs.
- The Texas Republican party just wants to say something inflamatory and think (utterly incorrectly) the Taiwan Independance is somehow a distant echo of Remember the Alamo.
I would bet cause number one is the real cause.
take care,
Brian “the son of an Okie” Kennedy
Law Way West of the Pecos
Well here is the rest of the Republican Party saying a lot as well.
[quote=“Hobart”]Well here is the rest of the Republican Party saying a lot as well.
taipeitimes.com/News/front/a … 2003201089[/quote]
Must have been a really big campaign contribution.
regards,
Robert
[quote=“robert_storey”][quote=“Hobart”]Well here is the rest of the Republican Party saying a lot as well.
taipeitimes.com/News/front/a … 2003201089[/quote]
Must have been a really big campaign contribution.
regards,
Robert[/quote] I guess Communist China paid Kerry a helluva a lot more than that huh, because he really loves China and seems to almost loath the democratic government here in Taiwan!
Who said anything about voting for Kerry? In fact, if you’re a good Republican, you really ought to vote for Ralph Nader. I’ve heard the Republicans say many times now that “a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush.” And look what Nader says about trade with China:
commondreams.org/views04/0621-12.htm
best regards,
Robert
a good republican is pro-free market. nader is an unabashed protectionist/labor cheerleader. your argument holds no water.
nader is an isolationist. if you care about the us coming to taiwan’s defense, nader would be the last person you vote for.
[quote=“brianlkennedy”]As to why the Texas Republican Party wants this there are three potential answers:
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Rich Pro-Independence Taiwanese ex-pats living in Texas have made major contributions to the Tex-as Republicans
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The Texans, harking back to the old John Wayne days, want to get tough on the godless ChiComs.
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The Texas Republican party just wants to say something inflamatory and think (utterly incorrectly) the Taiwan Independence is somehow a distant echo of Remember the Alamo.[/quote]
Let’s add number four. -
Rich Pro-Independence Texas ex-pats living in Taiwan have made major contributions to the Tex-as Republicans
[quote=“brianlkennedy”]As to why the Texas Republican Party wants this there are three potential answers:
- Rich Pro-Independance Taiwanese ex-pats living in Texas have made major contributions to the Tex-as Republicans
- The Texans, harking back to the old John Wayne days, want to get tough on the godless ChiComs.
- The Texas Republican party just wants to say something inflamatory and think (utterly incorrectly) the Taiwan Independance is somehow a distant echo of Remember the Alamo.
I would bet cause number one is the real cause.
take care,
Brian “the son of an Okie” Kennedy
Law Way West of the Pecos[/quote]
taiwanese americans are very evenly split. about 50/50 demos and repubs. texas would rank a distant 4th in concentration of taiwanese(after cali, ny, and ill). maybe fifth, but i don’t think the taiwanese population in hawaii is that big. the amount of lobbying dollars from pro-ti sources would absolutely PALE in comparison with the pro-china dollars which come from the largest multinationals in the state. the pro-china folk are also the most high profile tech firms.
so in conclusion, i would bet that it’s not #1.
republicans don’t like commies. especially not commies who’ve rammed our spy planes and threatened to nuke us. not that hard to figure out, really.
To be technical and precise, it was the American surveillance aircraft that manuevered into the Chinese plane. Granted the Chinese plane was flying too close, but I think data recovered from the plane showed that it made a sudden left banking manuever (poor visibility? pilot jitters?) and clipped the Chinese aircraft that was beside it.
According to the international law texts I have read, anything over 18,000 feet is technically US airspace anywhere in the world … because when John Glenn went up he claimed all that “previously unclaimed airspace” for the USA.
Hence, it was the Chinese aircraft which was flying in violation of international air regulations.
What are you on? How does a slow, prop-driven, 100+ft long surveilance aircraft “maneuver into” a fighter jet approaching it from the rear and below it at 500+knots? To be technical and precise, it was the Chinese pilot, who only got about 50 hours/year of air time, who flew so close to the EP-3 that his tail struck the EP-3’s prop. In this case, it was the smart guys who lived to tell about it and the dumbass who died.
There was no “data recovered.” Few military aircraft carry full flight recorders. The EP-3 is one that actually does. It is integrated with all the other positioning and electronics intelligence equipment on the plane. That recorder is at the top of the checklist of stuff to erase and destroy that the crew will go down if they have to ditch or make an emergency landing. All the hard disks on that plane were erased, gone over with a magnet and destroyed with a hammer before landing at Lingshui. There was no data for the Chinese to recover and analyze.
BTW, the same EP-3 that your incompetent pilot rammed into was refurbished and now flies a similar route along the PRC’s coast. It wouldn’t surprise me if some of the same crew are operating it again. To your country’s credit, they all claim to have been treated well while staying at Lingshui. They could probably tolerate another stay there if you guys would like to have another undertrained fighter pilot commit suicide on the prop blades of an EP-3 in international airspace.
Can you link the relevant law(s)?
Can you link the relevant law(s)?[/quote]
Doubtful, since I’m pretty sure jimmy was being sarcastic. But the EP-3 was in international airspace nevertheless, since they were far away from the Chinese coastline.
I don’t think that anyone but a PRC national would be stupid enough to believe a 4-prop bug-smasher like the EP-3 could ram a jet-fighter. Wang Wei knew what he was getting himself into, and lost the gamble. BFH.
I can’t view the site since i’m in China - and they don’t block any sites at all.
Meaning when I try to visit international human rights sites such as amnesty.org, and various .tw sites my internet has problems.
But anyway i’ve sort of gotten what the article is about, and none of them really actually care about Taiwan I bet.
for those poor folk using the censored chinese version of the internet:
Washington, Aug. 31 (CNA) The Texas Republican Party has called for the recognition of Taiwan as a sovereign and independent country in its party platform and has urged the U.S. Congress to pass a Taiwan Security Enhancement Act to help defend Taiwan. The Republican Party passed its platform Aug. 30 during a national convention held in New York, in which it stressed that Beijing has no rights to coercively impose its reign on Taiwan. The platform, which was approved, also states that problems related to Taiwan’s future should be resolved peacefully by measures agreed by the Taiwan people, and that if the mainland violates these principles, the United States will react accordingly, including helping Taiwan defend itself. The platform of the Texas Republican Party has more say on cross-Taiwan Strait ties and strongly recommends the removal of Permanent Normal Trade Relations (formerly Most Favored Nation status) with the mainland unless five conditions are met: A formal peace treaty between North and South Korea; a significant improvement in mainland government policies on human rights; religious freedom on the mainland; a halt to Beijing’s aggressive behavior toward its neighbors, particularly Taiwan; and a halt to transfers of nuclear, biological and chemical technology to Iran, Pakistan and North Korea. (By Jorge Liu and Elisa Kao)
[quote=“Hobart”]Come on, You got to love the Republicans! See this article about the Texas republicans.
DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS! WooHoo! Hook 'em Horns![/quote]
That would mean the Replicans would have to declare a Taiwan nation.
How about that?
Texas Republicans Call For Canada and Taiwan becomming the 51st and 52nd state of the US.
eek! why would republicans from any state want those crazy canadians to join our country? it’s bad enough we have people who enjoy ice fishing and speak with goofy accents in minnesota. 