Woke backlash goes too far, and shoes

[TT]

@Malasang88

Then certainly if you are bored you can ignore my post and choose not to engage

[tempogain]

@Malasang88

No I’m not. This is why the woke cancel culture trope is so grating. Criticizing something is not the same as censorship. Just because I post a view counter to the popular view on this thread does not mean I am telling others what to do. Others can decide for themselves.

I’m not saying it’s censorship, though I have to wonder what the result would be if you had the power to. I’m critiquing your form of argument.

@Malasang88

Or different approaches are more effective.

People are simply discussing issues that they identify as belonging to a set of woke issues. There are no different approaches to that.

@Malasang88

Nobody is stopping them. That is why Weiss, Taibbi, Greenwald, Rogan, Peterson are doing so well.

I’m not saying anyone is stopping them. They are doing as well as they are because they have audiences who want to hear them.

@Malasang88

Exactly, including those who profit off of hyperbolizing issues they call woke.

Sure, you can say that too. Aren’t you stigmatizing them though?

@Malasang88

If the perception is already there and you need to clarify, even if someone didn’t say it, then there’s a reason for that. I don’t think you’ve showed that is not in any respect.

Uhh, no. What, do you think if people criticized left-wing union organizing, for example, they would call it woke? I’m just accurately pointing out that anti-woke is not synonymous with anti-left-wing. It’s not–it has a much more specific connotation. You may well not agree with the anti-woke critique of certain issues, but I don’t see how you can deny the above, or why you would waste time disputing it with me. I think I’ve heard you make the argument in the past that so called anti-woke is simply a blanket anti-left-wing reaction, which is why I mentioned it.

[DrewC]

How I feel about Woke/SJWs and the MAGA/Alt-right

[tempogain]

This may call for a new thread!

[DrewC]

Haha wait! Why does my gif call for a new thread?

Social justice is good. Gay people should be allowed to get married, disabled people should have handicap accessibility, women shouldn’t live in fear of being groped by their male colleagues, etc.

I just hate the policing of language online and even for comedians and pop-culture. It’s so self-righteous and self-serving. It does nothing to advance the causes these online mobs claim to care about, and in fact turns the public against them. The pendulum needs to swing back a bit, and the left needs to remember they used to be the party that was AGAINST censorship.

[Malasang88]

@tempogain

I’m not saying it’s censorship, though I have to wonder what the result would be if you had the power to. I’m critiquing your form of argument.

Why? Disagreement does not have to be threatening. I’ve never tried to shut anyone up, stop anyone from posting, so that’s a bit unfounded.

@tempogain

People are simply discussing issues that they identify as belonging to a set of woke issues. There are no different approaches to that.

Yes there are. I thought the back and forth with Brendon on actual solutions to transgender bathrooms was productive. He got people to actually contemplate a real solution and expose a lot of the criticism as based on hypothetical. If that happened in the public forum among policy makers, it would be refreshing.

@tempogain

Sure, you can say that too. Aren’t you stigmatizing them though?

A few very rich content creators who base their platforms on this? I think they’re fine.

@tempogain

Uhh, no. What, do you think if people criticized left-wing union organizing, for example, they would call it woke? I’m just accurately pointing out that anti-woke is not synonymous with anti-left-wing. It’s not–it has a much more specific connotation. You may well not agree with the anti-woke critique of certain issues, but I don’t see how you can deny the above, or why you would waste time disputing it with me. I think I’ve heard you make the argument in the past that so called anti-woke is simply a blanket anti-left-wing reaction, which is why I mentioned it.

It’s the main platform of the GOP. They’re setting up an anti woke caucus. DeSantis made it the centerpiece of his campaign. We should all be able to see where this is going. If woke ceased to exist tomorrow, they would find a way to make everyone believe it was running through the streets terrorizing our cities.

[Malasang88]

@tempogain

This may call for a new thread!

[Malasang88]

@DrewC

The pendulum needs to swing back a bit, and the left needs to remember they used to be the party that was AGAINST censorship.

Ignoring would be a good option, but that is not profitable.

[mad_masala]

Trying to get rid of two or three annoying posters trying to take all the fun out of the Peak Woke Thread?

Maybe you can create some honeypot thread like this but with some AI generated discussion about how cool JP is. That should keep them distracted.

[Malasang88]

@mad_masala

Trying to get rid of two or three annoying posters trying to take all the fun out of the Peak Woke Thread?

Exactly.

[mad_masala]

Look! Jordan Peterson!

[Malasang88]

@TT

@Malasang88

They are not in any way shape or form cancelled

In a way, some of them are. I specifically asked about Chapelle, if you want to reply to the substance of my post

The guy who just won a couple grammies, sells out shows and doing better than ever? That guy? Sorry what were you saying?

[Malasang88]

@mad_masala

Look! Jordan Peterson!

Look purple haired fat girl!

[TT]

@Malasang88

@TT

@Malasang88

They are not in any way shape or form cancelled

In a way, some of them are. I specifically asked about Chapelle, if you want to reply to the substance of my post

The guy who just won a couple grammies, sells out shows and doing better than ever? That guy? Sorry what were you saying?

Please, try to keep up:

@TT

Has Dave Chapelle complained about cancelations?

I was saying, the discussion with you on this topic has gotten boring

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Edit: so a quick google search to see if DC had complains gave me this

Dave Chappelle show cancelled over transgender jokes controversy

So when you say

@Malasang88

They are not in any way shape or form cancelled

And i say

@TT

In a way, some of them are

Can you see why we appreciate @Brendon so very, very much?

Love you, @Brendon

[mad_masala]

@Malasang88

Look purple haired fat girl!

Where is she, so I can run somewhere else?

[Malasang88]

@TT

Has Dave Chapelle complained about cancelations?

Yes. I’m responding to your question.

“I hope we all survive it,” Chappelle added. “That’s why that cancel culture shit bothers me. I’m not even opposed to the ideas behind some of these cancellations. I get it.”

@TT

I was saying, the discussion with you on this topic has gotten boring

You have a choice. I find complaining about trans people boring.

[Malasang88]

@mad_masala

@Malasang88

Look purple haired fat girl!

Where is she, so I can run somewhere else?

The peak woke thread. Hours of entertainment.

[TT]

@Malasang88

@TT

Has Dave Chapelle complained about cancelations?

Yes. I’m responding to your question.

“I hope we all survive it,” Chappelle added. “That’s why that cancel culture shit bothers me. I’m not even opposed to the ideas behind some of these cancellations. I get it.”

From your article, to which I was responding:

There’s also a whole slew of crank comedians—Dave Chappelle, Ricky Gervais, Russell Brand, to name just a few—who free-think so hard that they all complain about being canceled

Where is he complaining about his cancellation? He is criticizing the phenomena, while saying he gets it, but isn’t complaining about being cancelled

I’ve watched Chappelle, he’s said more than once that he is grateful to have a platform, and he makes jokes.

The author of the piece you shared hasn’t done their research. It is shite.

[mad_masala]

@Malasang88

The peak woke thread. Hours of entertainment.

I think she isn’t there, but some privileged males discuss their nuttery.

[Malasang88]

@TT

Where is he complaining about his cancellation? He is criticizing the phenomena, while saying he gets it, but isn’t complaining about being cancelled

I’ve watched Chappelle, he’s said more than once that he is grateful to have a platform, and he makes jokes.

The author of the piece you shared hasn’t done their research. It is shite.

I just quoted him saying that the cancel culture shit bothers him and he hopes they all survive. That sounds like complaining.