Yeah, well, thanks for that, and I know you’re concerned about it too, as an ex smoker :bravo: , but we DID head for the outdoor seating last time, and found 15 smokers gathered there, and absolutely no refuge from the smoke except the sidewalk 50 meters away, at which point we were forced to just say bugger the cat, and left early. :s
For all the talk I hear (by foreigners) of foreigners being the ones who are most conscious of the environment, and for all of the bigoted drivel about locals being the rude and uncultured ones, from the perspective of a foreigner who needs to breathe clean air (I had chronic bronchitis and pneumonia 3x as a child, and the smoke really fucks my bronchia up, which harm lasts for about 2 weeks), I find that it is the gaggles of chain smoking foreigners in bars around Taipei who are the very worst offenders; perhaps not intentionally, on an individual basis (many are very cool and polite! :bravo: ), but they seem to hang out in more concentrated fashion, resulting in, well, chemical warfare, IMO.
Unfortunately, this appears to be just as true of Forumosans as other foreigners. So, although a number of F’ers have been quite kind an polite, asking ‘do you mind if I smoke’ when next to me in a happy hour setting, the lack of real partitioning and the sheer volume of chainsmokers simply makes happy hours intolerable for some of us. I mean, if I tell sb. it does bother me, but the other 75 smokers in the joint weren’t so kind as to ask, then what’s the point in even saying it bothers me?
I’m the vocal one here at this point, but there are other folks who don’t like to make a fuss, and so, simply don’t attend; I’ve gotten PMs from a number of them, – folks who never attend HH, just due to this.
I really don’t like always complaining, but I really feel there’s a widespread problem here, regarding lack of social awareness and lack of caring for the feelings of others. Not to mention many a Forumosa’s eventual agonizing death from lung cancer. (One friend’s father died last year of it. Another’s doesn’t have long to go.)
Alleycat has kindly mentioned, repeatedly to me, that the Neihu branch is non-smoking, but given this the behavior of the foreigner bar-going crowds so far, and the lack of any attempt at partitioning at the Alleycat’s grand opening, I somehow doubt real partitioning is gonna ever happen at a Forumosa Happy Hour. Back room - non smoking; front room - smoking simply doesn’t work. Physics 101. Smoke doesn’t obey imaginary boundaries, and as much as I love the food/drink/owner, neither Alleycat’s location has adequate ventilation to deal with scores of chain smokers.
Taipei Sports, with its open front window was tolerable re: smoke. Not ideal, but tolerable.
Sorry to bitch so much, but I strongly feel Forumosa is lagging behind the general trend of awareness and PC action on this particular issue, and for me, it’s pretty much at the point of having to choose whether or not to socialize in person with y’all. Which is pretty regrettable, no?