The COVID humbug thread (2021 edition)

Who is THEY ?

When i see we or they in an argument…It’s all downhill from there.


It will become an even bigger problem now omicron is so widespread in certain places.

Thursday, U.S. time:

In a Thursday appearance on MSNBC , America’s top Covid official, Dr. Anthony Fauci, admitted to a distinction between the number of children hospitalized with Covid as opposed to " because of Covid. "

“And what we mean by that: If a child goes into the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID and they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual, when, in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that . So it’s over counting the number of children who are, quote, hospitalized with COVID as opposed to because of COVID,” said Fauci.

What, this past Thursday? Wow, I assumed it was from last year.

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As I said…

…that’s who “they” are in this case. The full comment from the first link also says the commenter used to take them seriously.

And what’s so outrageous about it anyway? If we’re going to jab 100% of the humans (aside from the teeny tiny fraction of a percent who have “valid” medical reasons to be exempt), why stop there? The virus won’t stop there, naturally. Some zookeepers have already signed some of their animals up. :rainbow:


It’s funny how damn hard it is to find the official answers to (you would think) simple questions like this.

Some research team came up with a number-needed-to-vaccinate estimate some months ago (several hundred people), which of course gives you some idea of the cost. The paper was almost instantly withdrawn due to protests. The loudest argument was not that the estimation was fatally flawed, but something along the lines of “A NNTV number is a completely inappropriate metric to assess something as important as this”. Which strikes me as uncomfortably close to “it doesn’t matter how much money we have to spend”.

There’s money for everyone! :slight_smile:

“The stolen funds represent three percent of the $3.4 trillion dollars dispersed to the American public.”


As @Cake would say, “imagine that” :slight_smile:

Aside from scamming and theft, I’m sure most of the money disappeared into “legitimate” but completely pointless activities. How many new billionaires are we up to now? 40? 50?

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This is from earlier this year, so I’d guess 50 would be a low estimate.

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From July:

The 9 new vaccine billionaires, in order of their net worth are:

  1. Stéphane Bancel, Moderna’s CEO (worth $4.3 billion)
  2. Ugur Sahin, CEO and co-founder of BioNTech (worth $4 billion)
  3. Timothy Springer, an immunologist and founding investor of Moderna (worth $2.2bn)
  4. Noubar Afeyan, Moderna’s Chairman (worth $1.9 billion)
  5. Juan Lopez-Belmonte, Chairman of ROVI, a company with a deal to manufacture and package the Moderna vaccine (worth $1.8 billion)
  6. Robert Langer, a scientist and founding investor in Moderna (worth $1.6 billion)
  7. Zhu Tao, co-founder and chief scientific officer at CanSino Biologics (worth $1.3 billion)
  8. Qiu Dongxu, co-founder and senior vice president at CanSino Biologics (worth $1.2)
  9. Mao Huihua, also co-founder and senior vice president at CanSino Biologics (worth $1 billion)

The 8 vaccine billionaires who saw their wealth increase are:

Name Role/description $ billions 2021 $ billions 2020
Jiang Rensheng & family Chair, Zhifei Biological products $ 24.40 $ 7.60
Cyrus Poonawalla Founder, Serum Institute of India $ 12.70 $ 8.20
Tse Ping Sinopharm $ 8.90 $ 7.30
Wu Guanjiang Co-founder, Zhifei Biological products $ 5.10 $ 1.80
Thomas Struengmann & family Portfolio includes Germany’s BioNTech and Uruguay’s Mega Pharma $ 11.00 $ 9.60
Andreas Struengmann & family Portfolio includes Germany’s BioNTech and Uruguay’s Mega Pharma $ 11.00 $ 9.60
Pankaj Patel Controls listed company Cadila Healthcare. The company now manufactures drugs to treat Covid-19 such as Remdesivir from Gilead. Its Covid-19 vaccine, ZyCoV-D, is undergoing clinical trials. $ 5.00 $ 2.90
Patrick Soon-Shiong ImmunityBio - selected for the US federal government’s “Operation Warp Speed” to help quickly develop a Covid-19 vaccine. $ 7.50 $ 6

When you successfully launch a breakthrough medical treatment which then can spawn an entire new medical field based on mRNA which can then potentially treat diseases with no known cure…Well yeah… you can make billions of USD. That’s to be expected !

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Worldwide, 9 trillion was spent just up to May, 2020.

UK govt Covid spending latest data (Dec. 7): About £4,700 to £6,100 per person in the UK.

US has currently (Dec. 15) spent over 4 trillion.


Especially if dozens of world governments are running a marketing programme for you.

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Did you check the savings rates in many countries ?.It’s pretty interesting…Many people are actually better off.

“much-needed diagnostic tests” :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Sounds like an inteserting discussion topic: Is the world better off financially due to pandemic measures? Which people benefit? Do all? Some? Anyone suffering or suffered financially?

Please share the sources you have found.


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