Rhetorical question: You missed the study showing the majority of a random sample of Britons already had immunity regardless of jab status?
Iirc you identify as a fiscal conservative, so it stands to reason that you should be concerned about the cost of ~4 doses of jab per person per year for the rest of eternity.
Serious question #1: How much does a jab dose cost, including all the associated costs?
I think Finley did a rough estimate earlier in the thread. Of course, Iām looking for a number here, an amount of money. The other associated costs ā like destroying the rule of law ā also matter, but those costs canāt really be quantified.
Serious question #2: How much does a test for immunity-at-a-level-comparable-to-or-greater-than-that-attributable-to-the-jab cost?
It seems you just want Andrew to say things he is not saying so you can go off on your own solo rant.
Then you say something is āincorrectā.that is obviouslyā¦Correctā¦To any right minded person. You talk about scientific edivence but no links to whatever the hell you are claiming?
Hereās an ideaā¦
Why not just debate with yourself, create an alter ego , would be more efficient ?
Actually we havenāt dodged all the bullets as you will recall . The virus spread rapidly when given the chance. Plenty of older and infirm people were dying who got infected. Hence the six month Summer from hell last year when everything was closed down. Whole hospitals shut down . And the very stringent quarantine and test system .
In a Thursday appearance on MSNBC , Americaās top Covid official, Dr. Anthony Fauci, admitted to a distinction between the number of children hospitalized with Covid as opposed to " because of Covid. "
āAnd what we mean by that: If a child goes into the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID and they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual, when, in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that . So itās over counting the number of children who are, quote, hospitalized with COVID as opposed to because of COVID,ā said Fauci.
ā¦thatās who ātheyā are in this case. The full comment from the first link also says the commenter used to take them seriously.
And whatās so outrageous about it anyway? If weāre going to jab 100% of the humans (aside from the teeny tiny fraction of a percent who have āvalidā medical reasons to be exempt), why stop there? The virus wonāt stop there, naturally. Some zookeepers have already signed some of their animals up.
Itās funny how damn hard it is to find the official answers to (you would think) simple questions like this.
Some research team came up with a number-needed-to-vaccinate estimate some months ago (several hundred people), which of course gives you some idea of the cost. The paper was almost instantly withdrawn due to protests. The loudest argument was not that the estimation was fatally flawed, but something along the lines of āA NNTV number is a completely inappropriate metric to assess something as important as thisā. Which strikes me as uncomfortably close to āit doesnāt matter how much money we have to spendā.
Aside from scamming and theft, Iām sure most of the money disappeared into ālegitimateā but completely pointless activities. How many new billionaires are we up to now? 40? 50?
Juan Lopez-Belmonte, Chairman of ROVI, a company with a deal to manufacture and package the Moderna vaccine (worth $1.8 billion)
Robert Langer, a scientist and founding investor in Moderna (worth $1.6 billion)
Zhu Tao, co-founder and chief scientific officer at CanSino Biologics (worth $1.3 billion)
Qiu Dongxu, co-founder and senior vice president at CanSino Biologics (worth $1.2)
Mao Huihua, also co-founder and senior vice president at CanSino Biologics (worth $1 billion)
The 8 vaccine billionaires who saw their wealth increase are:
Name
Role/description
$ billions 2021
$ billions 2020
Jiang Rensheng & family
Chair, Zhifei Biological products
$ 24.40
$ 7.60
Cyrus Poonawalla
Founder, Serum Institute of India
$ 12.70
$ 8.20
Tse Ping
Sinopharm
$ 8.90
$ 7.30
Wu Guanjiang
Co-founder, Zhifei Biological products
$ 5.10
$ 1.80
Thomas Struengmann & family
Portfolio includes Germanyās BioNTech and Uruguayās Mega Pharma
$ 11.00
$ 9.60
Andreas Struengmann & family
Portfolio includes Germanyās BioNTech and Uruguayās Mega Pharma
$ 11.00
$ 9.60
Pankaj Patel
Controls listed company Cadila Healthcare. The company now manufactures drugs to treat Covid-19 such as Remdesivir from Gilead. Its Covid-19 vaccine, ZyCoV-D, is undergoing clinical trials.
$ 5.00
$ 2.90
Patrick Soon-Shiong
ImmunityBio - selected for the US federal governmentās āOperation Warp Speedā to help quickly develop a Covid-19 vaccine.
When you successfully launch a breakthrough medical treatment which then can spawn an entire new medical field based on mRNA which can then potentially treat diseases with no known cureā¦Well yeahā¦ you can make billions of USD. Thatās to be expected !