The COVID humbug thread (2021 edition)

When is that one from?

Rhetorical question:
You missed the study showing the majority of a random sample of Britons already had immunity regardless of jab status?


Iirc you identify as a fiscal conservative, so it stands to reason that you should be concerned about the cost of ~4 doses of jab per person per year for the rest of eternity.

Serious question #1:
How much does a jab dose cost, including all the associated costs?

I think Finley did a rough estimate earlier in the thread. Of course, Iā€™m looking for a number here, an amount of money. The other associated costs ā€“ like destroying the rule of law ā€“ also matter, but those costs canā€™t really be quantified.

Serious question #2:
How much does a test for immunity-at-a-level-comparable-to-or-greater-than-that-attributable-to-the-jab cost?

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Donā€™t forget the rest of the animal kingdom! :no_no:

As one commenter reacting to this put it:

We donā€™t even have an emoji for every animal on that list! :bat: :mouse: :rat: :doh: :doh: :doh: :gorilla: :monkey: :dog: :cat: :rabbit: :fox_face: :raccoon: :skunk:

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It seems you just want Andrew to say things he is not saying so you can go off on your own solo rant.

Then you say something is ā€˜incorrectā€™.that is obviouslyā€¦Correctā€¦To any right minded person. You talk about scientific edivence but no links to whatever the hell you are claiming?

Hereā€™s an ideaā€¦

Why not just debate with yourself, create an alter ego , would be more efficient ?

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Actually we havenā€™t dodged all the bullets as you will recall . The virus spread rapidly when given the chance. Plenty of older and infirm people were dying who got infected. Hence the six month Summer from hell last year when everything was closed down. Whole hospitals shut down . And the very stringent quarantine and test system .

Who is THEY ?

When i see we or they in an argumentā€¦Itā€™s all downhill from there.

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It will become an even bigger problem now omicron is so widespread in certain places.

Thursday, U.S. time:

In a Thursday appearance on MSNBC , Americaā€™s top Covid official, Dr. Anthony Fauci, admitted to a distinction between the number of children hospitalized with Covid as opposed to " because of Covid. "

ā€œAnd what we mean by that: If a child goes into the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID and they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual, when, in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that . So itā€™s over counting the number of children who are, quote, hospitalized with COVID as opposed to because of COVID,ā€ said Fauci.

What, this past Thursday? Wow, I assumed it was from last year.

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As I saidā€¦

ā€¦thatā€™s who ā€œtheyā€ are in this case. The full comment from the first link also says the commenter used to take them seriously.

And whatā€™s so outrageous about it anyway? If weā€™re going to jab 100% of the humans (aside from the teeny tiny fraction of a percent who have ā€œvalidā€ medical reasons to be exempt), why stop there? The virus wonā€™t stop there, naturally. Some zookeepers have already signed some of their animals up. :rainbow:

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Itā€™s funny how damn hard it is to find the official answers to (you would think) simple questions like this.

Some research team came up with a number-needed-to-vaccinate estimate some months ago (several hundred people), which of course gives you some idea of the cost. The paper was almost instantly withdrawn due to protests. The loudest argument was not that the estimation was fatally flawed, but something along the lines of ā€œA NNTV number is a completely inappropriate metric to assess something as important as thisā€. Which strikes me as uncomfortably close to ā€œit doesnā€™t matter how much money we have to spendā€.

Thereā€™s money for everyone! :slight_smile:

ā€œThe stolen funds represent three percent of the $3.4 trillion dollars dispersed to the American public.ā€

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As @Cake would say, ā€œimagine thatā€ :slight_smile:

Aside from scamming and theft, Iā€™m sure most of the money disappeared into ā€œlegitimateā€ but completely pointless activities. How many new billionaires are we up to now? 40? 50?

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This is from earlier this year, so Iā€™d guess 50 would be a low estimate.

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From July:

The 9 new vaccine billionaires, in order of their net worth are:

  1. StĆ©phane Bancel, Modernaā€™s CEO (worth $4.3 billion)
  2. Ugur Sahin, CEO and co-founder of BioNTech (worth $4 billion)
  3. Timothy Springer, an immunologist and founding investor of Moderna (worth $2.2bn)
  4. Noubar Afeyan, Modernaā€™s Chairman (worth $1.9 billion)
  5. Juan Lopez-Belmonte, Chairman of ROVI, a company with a deal to manufacture and package the Moderna vaccine (worth $1.8 billion)
  6. Robert Langer, a scientist and founding investor in Moderna (worth $1.6 billion)
  7. Zhu Tao, co-founder and chief scientific officer at CanSino Biologics (worth $1.3 billion)
  8. Qiu Dongxu, co-founder and senior vice president at CanSino Biologics (worth $1.2)
  9. Mao Huihua, also co-founder and senior vice president at CanSino Biologics (worth $1 billion)

The 8 vaccine billionaires who saw their wealth increase are:

Name Role/description $ billions 2021 $ billions 2020
Jiang Rensheng & family Chair, Zhifei Biological products $ 24.40 $ 7.60
Cyrus Poonawalla Founder, Serum Institute of India $ 12.70 $ 8.20
Tse Ping Sinopharm $ 8.90 $ 7.30
Wu Guanjiang Co-founder, Zhifei Biological products $ 5.10 $ 1.80
Thomas Struengmann & family Portfolio includes Germanyā€™s BioNTech and Uruguayā€™s Mega Pharma $ 11.00 $ 9.60
Andreas Struengmann & family Portfolio includes Germanyā€™s BioNTech and Uruguayā€™s Mega Pharma $ 11.00 $ 9.60
Pankaj Patel Controls listed company Cadila Healthcare. The company now manufactures drugs to treat Covid-19 such as Remdesivir from Gilead. Its Covid-19 vaccine, ZyCoV-D, is undergoing clinical trials. $ 5.00 $ 2.90
Patrick Soon-Shiong ImmunityBio - selected for the US federal governmentā€™s ā€œOperation Warp Speedā€ to help quickly develop a Covid-19 vaccine. $ 7.50 $ 6
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When you successfully launch a breakthrough medical treatment which then can spawn an entire new medical field based on mRNA which can then potentially treat diseases with no known cureā€¦Well yeahā€¦ you can make billions of USD. Thatā€™s to be expected !

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Worldwide, 9 trillion was spent just up to May, 2020.

https://blogs.imf.org/2020/05/20/tracking-the-9-trillion-global-fiscal-support-to-fight-covid-19/

UK govt Covid spending latest data (Dec. 7): About Ā£4,700 to Ā£6,100 per person in the UK.

US has currently (Dec. 15) spent over 4 trillion.

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Especially if dozens of world governments are running a marketing programme for you.

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