# The Dems 2025 and beyond **URL:** \ **Category:** US Politics\ **Created:** [January 28, 2025, 3:04am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301 "2025-01-28T03:04:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 3:04am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/1 "2025-01-28T03:04:55Z")
> **[Can middle-aged white guys save the Dems?](https://unherd.com/2025/01/can-middle-aged-white-guys-save-the-dems/)** > > Estimated reading time: 9 minutes ---
**Author:** ![CTaitung](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/ctaitung/32/100105_2.png) [@CTaitung](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/CTaitung)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 3:05am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/2 "2025-01-28T03:05:31Z")
No one can ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 3:06am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/3 "2025-01-28T03:06:15Z")
It will be child’s play, with just a bit of common sense. ---
**Author:** ![CTaitung](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/ctaitung/32/100105_2.png) [@CTaitung](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/CTaitung)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 3:31am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/4 "2025-01-28T03:31:12Z")
Yeah, that’s about the level that Dems have been acting. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 3:45am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/5 "2025-01-28T03:45:07Z")
Luckily the opposition in chief is a total moron, so it won’t take much more than that. ---
**Author:** ![Van](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/van/32/271495_2.png) [@Van](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Van)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 4:07am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/6 "2025-01-28T04:07:13Z")
it’s an interesting question, who controls the direction of the DNC., and how it might occur. The donor-class criticism is a bit double-standard-ish, no? this is american politics, after all. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 4:08am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/7 "2025-01-28T04:08:24Z")
Can you explain what the double standard is? ---
**Author:** ![Van](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/van/32/271495_2.png) [@Van](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Van)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 4:09am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/8 "2025-01-28T04:09:57Z")
I mean all politicians rely on it. Is the problem the specific donors? Maybe it’s just a perception problem. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 4:15am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/9 "2025-01-28T04:15:17Z")
Well, by “donor class” they’re referring to people with considerable financial means as well as corporations and other large entities, able to make donations large enough to have an influence. ---
**Author:** ![Van](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/van/32/271495_2.png) [@Van](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Van)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 4:20am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/10 "2025-01-28T04:20:53Z")
my point was how can you criticize the DNC for that but not the GOP? hence the double standard. Therefore I don’t see the problem as that but more along the lines of either the presidential candidates or committee leaders. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 4:26am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/11 "2025-01-28T04:26:02Z")
For a start, because the DNC just lost. It’s an article about what the DNC needs to do to win future elections. What the GOP does is outside of its control. Not to mention, as was noted I believe, the GOP picked up working class support this cycle. That’s obviously not a positive development for the Dems. Also obviously, it’s a class distinct from the donor class. ---
**Author:** ![Van](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/van/32/271495_2.png) [@Van](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Van)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 4:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/12 "2025-01-28T04:37:01Z")
No arguing with that. This is an interesting look at the recent past and current mood. Not as nut and bolts but more sociopolitical. > **[Goodbye, ‘Resistance.’ The Era of Hyperpolitics Is Over.](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/25/magazine/trump-hyperpolitics-resistance.html)** > > Where has the anti-Trump energy gone? [https://archive.ph/shpVI](https://archive.ph/shpVI) ---
**Author:** ![qbert](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/qbert/32/236297_2.png) [@qbert](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/qbert)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 4:45am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/13 "2025-01-28T04:45:31Z")
The Democrats were in worse shape in the 80s and early 90s. Then a middle aged white guy saved them. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 4:48am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/14 "2025-01-28T04:48:56Z")
good stuff. > All flames — even the hottest and most spectacular — eventually burn out. ---
**Author:** ![ChewDawg](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/chewdawg/32/174179_2.png) [@ChewDawg](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ChewDawg)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 4:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/15 "2025-01-28T04:51:12Z")
Fetterman types could, but the base won’t embrace. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 4:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/16 "2025-01-28T04:51:36Z")
He’s practically a Republican now! ---
**Author:** ![Van](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/van/32/271495_2.png) [@Van](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Van)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 5:33am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/17 "2025-01-28T05:33:27Z")
> [@qbert](#): > > The Democrats were in worse shape in the 80s and early 90s. Then a middle aged white guy saved them. The Unherd article shared in the first post mentions Clinton as the germination of where the dems find themselves now, ie globalization and the (unintended) consequences. Don’t really agree, but it’s probably part of the puzzle. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2025, 10:35pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/18 "2025-02-01T22:35:35Z")
> **[Ken Martin Wins Election to Lead National Democratic Party](https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/ken-martin-wins-election-to-lead-national-democratic-party/)** > > Read more here. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew0409](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew0409/32/69821_2.png) [@Andrew0409](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew0409)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2025, 11:18pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/19 "2025-02-01T23:18:31Z")
If this is the guy, republicans should run a black woman and let the chaos ensue for the next season of American elections. ---
**Author:** ![CTaitung](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/ctaitung/32/100105_2.png) [@CTaitung](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/CTaitung)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301/20 "2025-02-01T23:30:20Z")
From the same state as Tim “I’m a Nazi just like Musk” Walz. Doubling up on being losers. [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-dems-2025-and-beyond/248301.md?page=2)