The Guardian

Hello. I’m new here.

Where can I get a copy of the Guardian? (UK newspaper)

Many thanks in advance.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/

Good heavens man! Why would you want to read the Guardian? It’s socialist filth of the lowest order.

:slight_smile: Actually, just been following the cricket on the online version of the paper. Their OBO (over by over) coverage is pretty good (although I must say I prefer cricinfo.com’s less breathless approach).

Welcome to forumosa.

Middle class socialist filth? :noway:

It makes me wince with pain when I read yet another damning expose of commercial pig-rearing conditions, or another breathy article about Monbiot, but there really are no alternatives in the Yook. The Times is akin to the Daily Mail, these days and The Independent is dull as hell. The Telegraph mebbe, but it just ain’t much fun.

My eyes get tired easily when reading online.

My eyes get tired easily when reading online.[/quote]
Less masturbation. It’s not just an old wives tale.

Krakow;
First, change your name.
Next, don’t let the “League of Curmudgeons” discourage you.

[quote=“Enigma”]Krakow;
First, change your name.
Next, don’t let the “League of Curmudgeons” discourage you.[/quote]

You can’t ‘discourage’ people from reality: you can’t get it in Taiwan so he’ll have to read it online. :laughing: OP, you sometimes used to see The Guardian Weekly at Page On bookshop in the 101 shopping centre in Taipei.

I think I’ll print them out.
Cheers.

[quote=“krakow”]I think I’ll print them out.
Cheers.[/quote]

Print them off? Environmental terrorism! I’ll have to report you to George Monbiot. :wink:

[quote=“almas john”]Good heavens man! Why would you want to read the Guardian? It’s socialist filth of the lowest order.

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Full of champage socialist journos. As Mayor Johnson once said about the Guardian (Polly Toynbee more specifically) "the Guardian incarnates all the nannying, high-taxing, high-spending schoolmarminess of Brown’s Britain. It promotes a paranoid, mollycoddled, risk-averse, airbagged, booster-seated culture of political correctness and 'elf ‘n’ safety fascism. :laughing:

Katherine Viner’s begging for a coffee strategy appears to be working (unless she’s telling fibs/isn’t very good with figures):

I really thought the Grauniad was going down like a politically correct Titanic. I’ll be honest and admit that I would miss it if it did go. The Cosmopolitan with identity politics editorial policy that it follows now is tough to read at times, but still great fun.

Me too. I don`t agree with most of it, but I read it every day.

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Regarding the 10-year-old discussion above about whether or not The Guardian is socialist, they were among the most scathingly anti-Corbyn newspapers in the UK during the run-up to the Labour Party leadership election in which Corbyn won (and I include the openly right-wing Daily Mail and The Sun when I say that). They continued in their overtly anti-Corbyn coverage until Labour’s surprisingly strong showing in last year’s snap election, when Corbyn effectively cemented himself as leader and The Guardian realised they have to stop being so hostile towards him unless they want to risk alienating their readers. They’re as “socialist” as New Labour under Tony Blair and have consistently shown that they’d rather the Labour Party was led by a centrist in the Blair mould than an actual socialist like Jeremy Corbyn.

Of course, before anybody objects, by “The Guardian”, I specifically mean the editorial policies of Polly Toynbee. I know that some actual socialists and left-wingers like Glenn Greenwald and Owen Jones are given platforms to voice their opinions. But The Guardian’s editorial position is strictly in the centre/centre-left of the political spectrum, which is neither “socialist” nor “left-wing”. It is, in fact, a mouthpiece of the liberal establishment.

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The Guardian hasn’t been economically leftist for over two decades. It’s all been about identity.

Got it. Communist as fuck, in other words. :grin:

Because I’m an American I stopped reading the Guardian lo about 2003. Reading its reporting on the US reminds me of that movie Wedding Crashers. They’re like the wedding guest you don’t recognize who’s up with the first toast to the bride while being caught later in the kitchen telling the groom’s mother what a whore the bride is.

I really struggle with non-American elites like The Guardian who can’t accept America for what it is and who are determined to change it into something they can love. Gag.

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Most of the extreme Guardian nonsense comes from its American edition. You can’t blame us limey types for that.

Sure we can. It wouldn’t exist without you guys would it???

But I find them pretty decent normally

They’ve lost the most fun American guys like Stephen Thrasher and Jessica Valenti. There are still some fun Brits like Suzanne Moore, but they’re not in the same level.

Not in 2003.