A whole section on international politics and no posts on the epic Labour and Lib Dem fail?
Yeah. How about that. Either no one cares, or no one wants to deal with the implications. Me, I’m waiting to see what happens next before deciding whether to care.
UKIP didn’t do so hot, either. Maybe this referendum talk stole their thunder.
That’s soooo last Thursday.
Labour spent six years pointing to Cons austerity policy saying, “Us, too” , and then are surprised people will go the real Tories over Tory-lite.
That and all the bizarrities of FPTP voting.
And how about that new NDP government in Alberta? -words I never thought I’d write in my lifetime.
Ha! It happened exactly how I called it. My sister owes me a tenner. Except she’s a Labour voter so I’ll just have to take an IOU.
My Scouso-Welsh pal said it best: ‘Thanks a bundle, Scotland. Couldn’t you have ‘protested’ by fucking off out of the union?’
Some people aren’t taking it well:
telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ … ehall.html
[quote] The words “f*** Tory scum” were daubed in red paint on the Women’s War Memorial in Whitehall on Saturday, just a stone’s throw from a VE Day celebration concert at London’s Horse Guards Parade.
Four police officers and one other member of police staff were injured, with two needing hospital treatment, as campaigners descendedon Downing Street to protest against the new Conservative government. [/quote]
Thug culture, arguably.
Nah, that’s middle class protest. The English Labour voters didn’t foresee the collapse of any credible opposition as a result of the Lib Dems’ joining the previous coalition and Scotland not having the stomach for a ‘Yes’ vote but still squee-ing about Labour.
As well as the realisation that the traditional call for PR would mean more representation for UKIP and fascist groups, not just the Greens.
The north of England and Wales need to assert themselves. Somehow. Dunno how.
I read the Labour leader held on despite having a 15% or so approval rating, talk about selfish.
The real question is how the polls can be well to the left in both Israel and the UK. Something seems off there.
[quote=“Il Ðoge”]I read the Labour leader held on despite having a 15% or so approval rating, talk about selfish.
The real question is how the polls can be well to the left in both Israel and the UK. Something seems off there.[/quote]
Well to the right in Alberta. And it’s not so much to the left in Britain, as the SNP was attacking Labour from a leftist perspective- you could say it was even a rightist bias- it’s just that a FPTP system with multiple parties can lead to unexpected results with very small swings.
Same thing in Israel- a lot of Bibi’s votes were cannibalised from other right-wing parties, giving him the trouble he has now.
I’ve got a feeling the polls were off because people didn’t want to give their true feelings…they didn’t want to vote for labour because they were afraid the SNP would come in (and therefore the Scots) and tell them what to do. Scots telling the English what do do. Given the SNP is not a pro-unionist party and are , in the name, Scottish, this just didn’t go down well with the English. At all. But how do they voice this…they are supposed to be British right? We wanted them to stay in the union. Until they got all that voting power. Besides it’s an emotional response, people can make up their own rationale.
So they said sod that, I like labour, but I hate the idea of SNP and Labour more (even if they might not have admitted it to themselves and I have Scottish mates and relatives…can’t tell them)…so I’ll give a sneaky vote for the tories just this time.
What was UKIP polling, compared to what they got? I know they got screwed under the voting system.
Try this:
bbc.com/news/election/2015/results
And since Alberta had been mentioned:
results.elections.ab.ca/wtResultsPGE.htm
There is nothing “epic” about either of those results, unless you want to talk about the epic self-deception of hanging on to FPTP voting and pretending to be a democracy. 
We like FPTP beccause it eeps cranks likeUKIP out. Democracy means everyone speaks, not that everyone is listened to.
This is a much broader question, not specifically about the UK election, but how the hell do pollsters even cope with the last few decades of technological developments? I mean, some huge percentage of the population either doesn’t have a land-line, or won’t answer calls from unknown numbers. It’s like over time, the respondants they do get–the weirdos who are willing to take a telephone survey-- are increasingly unrepresentative of the general population.
Not that this would explain the UK results. (If anything, I would have expected young people to be disproportionately anti-Tory, leading to polls that underestimate Labour’s strength.)