The Not So Crowded Presidential 2024 Election Thread

He’s grown on me. I remember the shit he pulled in Clayoquot against blue collar folk in the 1990s but like how he’s exposing Dem Party hypocrisy decades later. I like Cornell West better but having RFK and West comment on Biden is pure entertainment gold.

Whether you disagree or agree with them, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Abrams, Bolton etc. are intellectual giants compared to the current officials. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: It’s like comparing Vulcans to single celled organisms. Not saying they didn’t make mistakes but geez—the blue bloods/neocons sure beat Clinton Foundation sleaze or Hunter shenanigans. Much prefer noble public servant type of politicos, even if misguided, than nouveau riche Dems on the take/into self enrichment.

Excellent article on West in the Atlantic:
Joe Biden Has a Cornel West Problem - The Atlantic

“Make mistakes” is a very kind way of describing minor things like dragging us into a 2 decade quagmire based on what we now know are lies (vs a bad interpretation of intel), that still has repercussions, cost trillions, and killed hundreds of thousands. Sorry, I’m not giving kudos to that sort of delegation to intellectual giants if those are the results, nor am I preferring those actions to the sleaze and shananigans.

I’ll have to chew on what definition of noble you might be using there, especially with the likes of Cheney who lied, repeatedly, in the runup to the Iraq quagmire.

The Democrats have become the anti-free speech party. Unbelievable…

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1682033754347536386

It’s subscription locked unfortunately. Not just a hit piece? They started by calling him a “MAGA accessory”

RFK has been denied secret service protection. It seem most protection does start at the election with many exceptions recently from Trump and Obama both receiving in a year before election year.

Considering the context of his family history, I would think it would be a courtesy of the Biden admin to give him protection early.

Hunter Biden gets it, but he’s a private citizen.

The video of Joe’s lies would be a three parter.

Another very interesting RFK Jr article

RFK Jr. and Ramaswamy coming up fast in the outside lanes | The Hill

The latest Harvard-Harris poll places Kennedy in first place when it comes to favorability: at 47 percent he is ahead of Biden, Trump, DeSantis and every other candidate. His un-favorability is the lowest among all candidates, at just 26 percent.

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On that note:

If this polls well, Trump goes to jail or is so disgraced by his behavior seen presented in public with evidence that Biden feels he can drop out because his job was to ensure that a Trump wasn’t re-elected and missions accomplished, Jack! Then it’s Ron vs Gavin for the new soul of the nation. I hope it’s Ron. Newsome’s entire name is a joke.

Vivek is creeping up on him. Not sure Ron can hack it.

we’ve seen how speaks to the bare midriff riffraff now we’ll see how he speaks to the rest of mur’ka. And to the dark money tier of political investors. Them too.

He’s a bit rabid, isn’t he?

That was a great testimony. Almost everyone who I knew that got addicted to opiates and eventually heroin has sadly died. Not many make it out.

Newsome and DeSantis seem to be both establishment picks, Newsom seems to be setting up some super pac for a president run which might seem to signal a transition away from Joe towards Gavin.

Of course the backers of Newsom and Desantis want a debate, they own both guys and want to control the narrative. Note, when Sanders and Trump wanted a debate the powers that be stopped that from happening, so keep an eye out for their hypocrisy as a tell.

Ultimately the establishment don’t always get what they want, they wanted Bush vs Clinton in 2016 but Bush was too much of a sap for Republicans to go for him. DeSantis started off well and with a lot of good will from Republicans, but has seen that take a hit, Im not sure he can turn that round again.