# The Obama File

**URL:** <https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-obama-file/46565>\
**Category:** International Politics\
**Tags:** obama, presidential-election-2008\
**Created:** [August 30, 2008, 12:12pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-obama-file/46565 "2008-08-30T12:12:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Mawvellous](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mawvellous](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mawvellous)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 12:12pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-obama-file/46565/1 "2008-08-30T12:12:13Z")

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I’ve been looking through an anti-Obama site, “The Obama File”. I can’t believe how lame and lacking in substance the conservative attacks on him are.  
Here are some shocking allegations from the “Islam” section of the site.

> [@The Obama File](#):
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> Obama is protective of civil rights for Muslims in the U.S., saying, “In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging,” he laments. "I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.

So Obama thinks that US citizens of the Muslim faith also have civil rights.

> [@The Obama File](#):
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> Obama sponsors Illinois Senate Bill 750 creating the “Halal Food Act,” providing for inspections by the Department of Agriculture to ensure that all food labeled Halal is prepared according to Islamic law.

Obama believes that food should be sold as labelled.

> [@The Obama File](#):
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> Obama calls the Iraq war "a botched and ill-advised U.S. military incursion into a Muslim country.

Obama was correct!

> [@The Obama Files](#):
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> In August, Obama took a taxpayer-funded trip to Africa. While he was in northern Kenya, he was photographed in full Muslim regalia.

Obama donned the local attire, just as many other leaders have done on trips abroad.

> [@The Obama Files](#):
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> Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth.”

It is indeed a beautiful sound.

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> Obama shows his Muslim/Palestinian solidarity and sensitivity, by telling Muscatine, Illinois Democratic party activists that he supports relaxing restrictions on aid to the Palestinian people. He said they have suffered the most as a result of stalled peace efforts with Israel. “Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people.”

Irrespective of apportioning blame, it is very hard to argue that the Palestinian people are not suffering greatly.

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> Obama told a French magazine in an interview that if he wins office, he will hold a summit with Muslim countries to better the United States’ image in the world.

Now he wants to talk to Muslim countries! Is this something that no good Christian American would consider?

…continues ad nauseum

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**Author:** ![TainanCowboy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tainancowboy/32/16118_2.png) [@TainanCowboy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/TainanCowboy)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 1:33pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-obama-file/46565/2 "2008-08-30T13:33:43Z")

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Oh yeah. The Obama is getting such a bum rap it’s a pity.

Must be racism…eh?

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**Author:** ![Rascal](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/439d5e/32.png) [@Rascal](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Rascal)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 2:29pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-obama-file/46565/3 "2008-08-30T14:29:48Z")

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[quote=“TainanCowboy”]Oh yeah. The Obama is getting such a bum rap it’s a pity.

Must be racism…eh?[/quote]  
Who said? I don’t see any such claim in Mawvellous’ post.

I guess if you have nothing to say the best thing you can do is to make up shit …

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**Author:** ![Mawvellous](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mawvellous](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mawvellous)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 2:34pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-obama-file/46565/4 "2008-08-30T14:34:49Z")

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[quote=“TainanCowboy”]Oh yeah. The Obama is getting such a bum rap it’s a pity.

Must be racism…eh?[/quote]

huh…I didn’t say it was racism. I said I thought that the attacks produced by that website were lame and lacking in substance.  
What is wrong with suggesting that the civil rights of all American citizens should be protected, or that food should be correctly labelled, or that the US might want to talk to Muslim countries? Please tell…

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**Author:** ![marboulette](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/87869e/32.png) [@marboulette](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/marboulette)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 4:15pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-obama-file/46565/5 "2008-08-30T16:15:00Z")

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I don’t think TC was referring to the OP’s comments. In fact, I can’t see how his post could be interpreted as such.

marboulette.

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**Author:** ![Mawvellous](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mawvellous](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mawvellous)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-obama-file/46565/6 "2008-08-30T16:27:38Z")

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[quote=“marboulette”]I don’t think TC was referring to the OP’s comments. In fact, I can’t see how his post could be interpreted as such.

marboulette.[/quote]

He didn’t have anything useful to say, so he “played the (reverse) race card” as a smokescreen to obscure the fact that that site is a load of poppy cock. It would sure be interesting to hear his opinion on the issues raised instead.

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**Author:** ![Rascal](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/439d5e/32.png) [@Rascal](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Rascal)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 4:32pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-obama-file/46565/7 "2008-08-30T16:32:16Z")

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> [@marboulette](#):
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> I don’t think TC was referring to the OP’s comments. In fact, I can’t see how his post could be interpreted as such.

Read more of his posts and you will understand.

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**Author:** ![anon38216271](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b5e925/32.png) [@anon38216271](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon38216271)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 5:44pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-obama-file/46565/8 "2008-08-30T17:44:03Z")

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[quote=“Rascal”][quote=“TainanCowboy”]Oh yeah. The Obama is getting such a bum rap it’s a pity.

Must be racism…eh?[/quote]  
Who said? I don’t see any such claim in Mawvellous’ post.

I guess if you have nothing to say the best thing you can do is to make up shit …[/quote]

I believe that TC was being very tongue-in-cheek/ sarcastic when he said that…correct me if I’m wrong.

[quote]The Obama File wrote:  
Obama sponsors Illinois Senate Bill 750 creating the “Halal Food Act,” providing for inspections by the Department of Agriculture to ensure that all food labeled Halal is prepared according to Islamic law.

Obama believes that food should be sold as labeled.[/quote]

And what’s wrong with that? If you read the [bill](http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920SB0750.html) you will see that it is designed to prevent :

1)Creates the Halal Food Act. (“Halal” food is  
defined to mean food that is prepared under and maintained in strict  
compliance with the laws of the Islamic religion.)  
2)Makes it a Class B  
misdemeanor for any person to: make a statement that tends to  
deceive or otherwise lead a reasonable individual to believe that a  
non-halal food product is halal;  
3) falsely represent any food sold,  
prepared, served, or offered for sale to be halal;  
4)remove or destroy  
the original identification affixed to food commodities to indicate  
they are halal; or engage in certain other conduct.

We have symbols on food products in the US that note if it is kosher or not. So why can’t Muslims have the same benefit? And if you think about it, it’s could be a benefit for others as I know many people who aren’t Jews who eat kosher, because the meat is cleaner therefore the same could be said about those who want to have food prepared in under Islamic laws.

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**Author:** ![redandy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@redandy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/redandy)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-obama-file/46565/9 "2008-08-30T19:24:05Z")

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It’s hard to tell who’s arguing with who on this thread. I’m getting confused here.

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**Author:** ![Mawvellous](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mawvellous](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mawvellous)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2008, 12:48am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-obama-file/46565/10 "2008-08-31T00:48:47Z")

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> [@Namahottie](#):
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> And what’s wrong with that?

Nothing! Did you read my post?

However, I would like to challenge any anti-Obama person to tell me what is wrong with the bill.
