The Oscars 2004

They’re coming up soon, who are your faves?

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ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE
Johnny Depp - PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: THE CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL
Ben Kingsley - HOUSE OF SAND AND FOG
Jude Law - COLD MOUNTAIN
Bill Murray - LOST IN TRANSLATION
Sean Penn - MYSTIC RIVER

ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Alec Baldwin - THE COOLER
Benicio Del Toro - 21 GRAMS
Djimon Hounsou - IN AMERICA
Tim Robbins - MYSTIC RIVER
Ken Watanabe - THE LAST SAMURAI

ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE
Keisha Castle-Hughes -WHALE RIDER
Diane Keaton - SOMETHING’S GOTTA GIVE
Samantha Morton - IN AMERICA
Charlize Theron - MONSTER
Naomi Watts - 21 GRAMS

ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Shohreh Aghdashloo - HOUSE OF SAND AND FOG
Patricia Clarkson - PIECES OF APRIL
Marcia Gay Harden - MYSTIC RIVER
Holly Hunter - THIRTEEN
Ren

Give them all to Chicago again to remind us all how awful that movie was and how crony the ceremony is.

Lost in Translation was FAB.

MALE ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE

Bill Murray - LOST IN TRANSLATION

MALE ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

Tim Robbins - MYSTIC RIVER

FEMALE ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE

Diane Keaton - SOMETHING’S GOTTA GIVE

FEMALE ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

Holly Hunter - THIRTEEN

BEST PICTURE

Lost in Tokyo

The only movies in that whole list I’ve seen are Pirates of the Caribean, Finding Nemo, and Seabiscut. They all have something to do with the sea.

It would be great to see Bill Murray win an Oscar. I think he did a good job in Lost in Translation, but that’s the only film I’ve really seen of them all…

MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD

I had such great hopes for this movie.

ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE (saw 3 movies)
Bill Murray - LOST IN TRANSLATION

  • I think his first Oscar nominee and he realy deserves it.

ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE (saw 2)
Charlize Theron - MONSTER

  • After seeing the real character, Charlize is definetly my favor.

ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE (saw 3)
Tim Robbins - MYSTIC RIVER or
Ken Watanabe - THE LAST SAMURAI

  • Both were good.

ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE (saw 3)
Holly Hunter - THIRTEEN

  • Yep, she is back, after some junk and cheap movies.

ANIMATED FEATURE FILM (saw 3)
FINDING NEMO

  • Last year’s only countable animation.

BEST PICTURE saw all
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING

  • Although I like the Two Tower…

What do you think about this opinion?

The writer says

“Let Women Compete for Best Actor” Good idea?

Nominations for the Academy Awards are in, and the safest prediction is that everyone will find something to complain about. But of course the Oscars are not “fair.” They have always been more about spectacle and hype than about the legitimate recognition of talent. That’s been clear at least since “Wings” beat out “Sunrise” for the top award in the very first Oscar ceremony in 1929.

For more evidence, consider the best actress category. I don’t mean the nominees, or past winners ?but the category itself. There is no reason to divide the acting competition into male and female divisions.

Distinguishing between lead and supporting roles is reasonable. Separate categories for best dramatic performance and best comedic performance, like those in the Golden Globes, also make sense. What Reese Witherspoon does in “Legally Blonde” is qualitatively different from what Judi Dench does in “Iris.” Ms. Dench’s performance is more easily compared to Russell Crowe’s in “A Beautiful Mind.” So why, under the Oscar rules, does Ms. Witherspoon go up against Ms. Dench, while Ms. Dench is protected from competing against Mr. Crowe (and vice versa)?

One argument is that in male- dominated Hollywood, a category of one’s own affords women the only chance they might have to be recognized at all. As any actress will tell you, great parts for women as rare as the tartare at Spago.

Men get juicier roles in more important films. That’s why every year there are worthy male performances that get shut out of the nominations in the face of extensive competition, while the actress races are usually padded out with one or two second-raters. In a unisex category, even talented women might be forsaken entirely.

But this situation is hardly unique to acting, which actually offers women more opportunities ?and better recognition ?than most professions honored at the Oscars. No one would have thought it bizarre if Julia Roberts had beaten Russell Crowe in a hypothetical showdown last year. But what if Steven Soderbergh had lost in the best director category to Nancy Meyers, whose “What Women Want” was the most popular film of 2000 directed by a woman? She was not nominated for an Oscar. The female directors of “Boys Don’t Cry,” “Rambling Rose,” “Orlando” and “Clueless” weren’t nominated, either.

In the 73-year history of the Academy Awards, women have been nominated for best director exactly twice. Yet the motion picture academy would never consider creating a category for “best directress.”

Even in fields where there are more women, they tend to fare poorly against men. Of the 146 writers nominated for an Academy Award in the last decade, for example, only 16 have been women. No one favors separate awards for male and female screenwriters.

And if the idea is to recognize professionals who tend to be ignored in Hollywood, then there ought to be a separate award for black actors. You think women have it hard in Hollywood? Only one black actor, Sidney Poitier, has ever won the top award (he won for best actor in 1963 for “Lilies of the Field”), and only 13 have ever been nominated, compared with more than 300 white actors.

It would be preposterous even to consider a black actors category. Is best actress really any less demeaning?

The Academy Awards indulge in gender segregation because the Oscars are, first and foremost, about glitz. Actresses are more in the public eye than almost anyone else in Hollywood. No offense to the male actors in their monochrome tuxes, but on Oscar night, it’s the women who bring the glamour. Audiences want to see this year’s dresses and hairstyles. Studios want female stars to help them sell tickets.

That’s the real purpose of the Oscars. The motion picture academy should stop pretending otherwise – unless it plans on eliminating the best actress category.

Very interesting. The thing is that they are already overdrawn. Perhaps combining best original screenplay with best adapted screenplay together would make room for best directress. Or even better than that, judge films more fairly. If they have best animated feature and best animated short, why not go for the whole shebang and do each genre of film separately? Action, comedy, drama, musical, documentary, animated, and miscellaneous. How about a best independent film? They should have a poll on which categories should be added and which ones should be left off. I mean, honestly…best sound editing? Who gives a flying monkey about sound editing?
How about the most editing mistakes instead…the clips can show times when equipment, crew, continuity, and anachronic errors appear in the films? That would get me to take a closer look at films more than earning a flippin’ “best sound editing” award.

this just in!

Zellweger wins best supporting actress
Robbins takes best supporting actor

i forgot it was today! time flies! gibson was a no show.

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ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE
Sean Penn
MYSTIC RIVER

ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Tim Robbins
MYSTIC RIVER

ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE
Charlize Theron
MONSTER

ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Ren

oscars.com/oscarnight/winners/win_33170.html

you can read Charlize Theron’s acceptance speech here and other speeches, too. Videos, too, in the backstage area.

oscars.com

the show is on again tonight at 9 pm on the STAR MOVIE channel, was LIVE this morning (yawn)… lasted about 4 hours.

oscars.com/oscarnight/winners/win_33172.html

SEAN PENN speech, very nice, here.

Lord of the Rings best pic? What a joke.

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you can read Charlize Theron’s acceptance speech here and other speeches, too. Videos, too, in the backstage area.[/quote]

Seems Charlize doesn’t have much of a vocabulary beyond the word ‘incredible’. :neutral:
I guess she was nervous.

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Yes, very. Wait until you see the re-run tonight at 9 pm. She doesn’t do her speech until after midnight though, around 12:35.

Actors have limited vocabularies, didn’t you know. That’s why they have screen writers like Sofia Coppola to put real words in their mouths. They are just pretty boy and pretty girl puppets. The real art in films is the directors and the writers. Actors? Pshaaww!

One thing i hate about the Oscars coverage in the media is the assocation of actresses with the designer clothes they wear to the show. It is stupid, talking about all this Versace Gormani stuff. Who cares! It’s the person, stupid, not the person who designed their FREE uniform for the evening.

Watch, tomorrow’s papers will prattle on about what the girls were wearing and who designed which outfits for whom. Does anyone really care? I don’t. maybe female viewers and readers do, but i can’t imagine they really do.

Bill Murra said it best on CNN just now:

Bill Murray may have put the fashion focus in perspective. When asked what he was wearing – as in, what designer – Murray responded, “What am I wearing? Boxers.”

CNN website says things like

Angelina Jolie in Caroline Herrara

Renee Zellwiger in Verscae Gabinni

Who cares what they were wearing? When did this dumb tradition start? It gets worse every year.

Skip the clothes stuff. is it really important to the film’s being honored?

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Let’s see some elaboration here. Why a joke… which you would have preferred… etc

suntimes.com/output/zwecker/ … zp031.html

NEXT year’s Oscars talk. Coming soon to a theatre near you.

Hah! I was spitting the same bile last year after Chicago won. :raspberry:

LOR forever! :notworthy:

[quote=“Richardm”]The only movies in that whole list I’ve seen are … and Seabiscut. They all have something to do with the sea.[/quote]I’m not watching that then, I thought it was about a biscuit.

I can accept this, however exactly which of the other nominations were even within earshot of being as well done as RotK? Truly there were some worthy noms in the category, but none of them came close to the level of RotK. Frankly, after FotR and TTT both got snubbed, RotK had it’s due coming. I don’t think anyone should have expected anything else from the Academy.

All awards aside, RotK is definitely one of the best epics ever put to film, if not the best. :notworthy: