# The Overdue Critical Race Theory/DEI Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** US Politics\ **Created:** [February 13, 2021, 7:49am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736 "2021-02-13T07:49:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 53
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1044 "2021-06-24T15:37:24Z")
> **[The Backlash against Critical Race Theory Is Real | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/06/the-backlash-against-critical-race-theory-is-real/)** > > No matter how much progressives want to claim otherwise, parents are genuinely concerned about a divisive worldview being imposed on their children. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Milker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dr_milker/32/181996_2.png) [@Dr\_Milker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dr_Milker)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1045 "2021-06-24T16:13:05Z")
I finally got the chance to watch the “debate” between Joy Reid and Chris Rufo, and wow, she literally wouldn’t let him compete a sentence. I guess it’s a sign of how effective he is that they won’t even let him talk. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/1QhLW1A70G8/maxresdefault.jpg "Joy Reid Schools Critical Race Theory Critic On Legal Scholarship") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QhLW1A70G8) ---
**Author:** ![Malasang88](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/malasang88/32/156935_2.png) [@Malasang88](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Malasang88)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1046 "2021-06-24T16:38:44Z")
Straight from the horses mouth: Rufo straight-up **admits that it was corporate and educational anti-racist trainings that motivated his crusade, not critical race theory itself; that the primary reason he selected it as a target was its ominous sounding name** ; and that he neither knows nor cares about the actual substance of CRT. **“Strung together, the phrase ‘critical race theory’ connotes hostile, academic, divisive, race-obsessed, poisonous, elitist, anti-American,” he told Wallace-Wells. At a recent conference, he contemptuously scoffed at “pathetic … angry graduate students” who try to argue with him about CRT or other topics. "I don’t give a s** t\*\* about this stuff," he said. On Twitter, Rufo frankly admitted that he wants to make CRT into a vacuous smear and fill up its meaning with everything he doesn’t like: > **[Why are conservatives throwing a tantrum about anti-racism? The George Floyd...](https://news.yahoo.com/why-conservatives-throwing-tantrum-anti-095512632.html)** > > A ginned-up moral panic is an excuse to not do anything about racial injustice ---
**Author:** ![Malasang88](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/malasang88/32/156935_2.png) [@Malasang88](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Malasang88)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1047 "2021-06-24T16:54:01Z")
Ian Prior just pops up everywhere doesn’t he? He’s made quite the career for himself creating groups of feral activists to harass parents, teachers, school boards. Multiple reports of racists incidents in the school with kids being called the N word and those of South Asian descent called ISIS. Even the local NAACP (that liberal rag) found Loudon County schools to be a hostile environment after an audit and filed a complaint with the attorney general. Loudoun County was once a Republican stronghold, but it has shifted to favor Democrats in recent elections — **Trump lost the county by 24 percentage points last year —** in part due to changing demographics. You’re dealing with a situation at a local level where a school district and school curriculum is being politicized,” said Ian Prior, a white Loudoun County parent and **former spokesman for Trump’s Justice Department** who is leading the school board recall effort. “And there are several people — not just me — who absolutely know how to make sure that those things are at least exposed.” In 2019, the Loudoun County school district hired a consultant group, the Equity Collaborative, to conduct an audit of the racial climate in schools. Students of color told the Equity Collaborative in focus groups that **white students, teachers and parents had used racial slurs and told them to go back to their country.** Other members of the anti-racist group who were named in articles also received messages calling them racial slurs, and telling them, “Go home, you have no place in the USA,” according to screenshots reviewed by NBC News. **Morford, who had flagged Prior and a former congressional candidate as critics of equity initiatives in the anti-racist group, was labeled a “harasser” on a website that listed her email and employer, prompting her to install security cameras**. > **[In a wealthy Virginia suburb, parents face threats in battle over equity in...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wealthy-loudoun-county-virginia-parents-face-threats-battle-over-equity-n1269162)** > > “This has made people afraid to speak up,” one mother said. “They’re afraid that what happens to us is going to happen to them." ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1048 "2021-06-24T17:06:32Z")
Smear after smear. > **[Washington Post tried to smear me for criticizing race theory — and failed...](https://nypost.com/2021/06/22/washington-post-tried-to-smear-me-for-criticizing-race-theory-and-failed/)** > > Critical race theory is demonizing vast swaths of America over skin color. It’s racism. Democracy does indeed die in darkness, as The Washington Post’s motto proclaims. It’s just that the paper its… ---
**Author:** ![TT](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tt/32/271883_2.png) [@TT](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/TT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 5:09pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1049 "2021-06-24T17:09:28Z")
> [@Malasang88](#): > > **At a recent conference, he contemptuously scoffed at “pathetic … angry graduate students” who try to argue with him about CRT or other topics. "I don’t give a s** t\*\* about this stuff," he said. “Highly technical Hegel interpretations” is the exact quote (it was included in the video @Dr_Milker just posted), not CRT and other topics; your misquoting to prove a point is the kind of behaviour that disproves your post. If you want to go straight from the horses mouth, do that. ---
**Author:** ![TT](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tt/32/271883_2.png) [@TT](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/TT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1050 "2021-06-24T17:14:41Z")
I don’t see the relevance of this post to anything we’re discussing on this thread. Lies and distractions won’t change anyone’s mind, it only demonstrates the playbook. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1051 "2021-06-24T17:21:46Z")
> [@TT](#): > > it only demonstrates the playbook. Yep. Rufo has been totally straightforward and consistent on this, that’s just silly. Total unwillingness to engage on the issues, looks like full blown desperation mode in wokeworld on this at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Malasang88](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/malasang88/32/156935_2.png) [@Malasang88](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Malasang88)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1052 "2021-06-24T17:31:45Z")
> _I want to understand white rage, and I’m white, and I want to understand it.”_ _“What is it that that caused thousands of people to assault this building and try to overturn the Constitution of the United States of America,”_ _“I’ve read Mao Zedong, I’ve read Karl Marx, I’ve read Lenin, that doesn’t make me a communist. So what is wrong with understanding — having some situational understanding about the country that we are here to defend?_ Preach! 🙏 > **[WATCH: Matt Gaetz thought he could get one over on the military. He was wrong.](https://www.queerty.com/watch-matt-gaetz-thought-get-one-military-wrong-20210624)** > > Gaetz sneered at the notion that teaching people to think for themselves is beneficial... ---
**Author:** ![TT](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tt/32/271883_2.png) [@TT](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/TT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1053 "2021-06-24T17:33:45Z")
> [@tempogain](#): > > looks like full blown desperation mode in wokeworld on this at the moment I disagree, I think most of the people claiming there is no problem and it is only manufactured by conservatives really believe this. Posturing by idiots like Matt Gaetz feeds into this narrative, which is a shame because there is a real problem in education. But just because Matt Gaetz is an idiot, that doesn’t mean everyone else who opposes current-year-fashionable-anti-white-racism is. * * * Look, I did a google scholar search for critical race theory. the second hit was an introductory text by a main scholar, and i hit the cited by list (great function on google scholar, like a reverse reference list) The top 5 hits are all in education, citing the CRT intro text. Yes, they are not CRT publications (oh wait, the last one there is), but they are using it in the academic work on education (I own one of Merriam’s case study texts, her and Yin are the main authors here and I have one from each). The teachers in schools, and the people who write curriculum are reading this stuff when they are trained, and the professors who are publishing this are obviously using it. To say that ‘CRT isn’t being taught to children so what is all the complaining about, CRT is something else’ is an admission of ignorance (or less often, an outright lie). ![Screen Shot 2021-06-25 at 1.35.36 AM](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/9/e/9e430ac989a45726d5edafaf98b439852e351fea.png) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Seeker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@The\_Seeker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/The_Seeker)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1054 "2021-06-24T17:37:18Z")
> **[Math workbook says its racist to ask students to get the right answer](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9717063/Educators-slam-math-workbook-claims-racist-ask-students-right-answer.html)** > > The program is centered around a workbook for teachers titled 'A Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction' and has reportedly been used by schools in Georgia, Ohio, California and Oregon. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1055 "2021-06-24T17:42:43Z")
> [@TT](#): > > I disagree, I think most of the people claiming there is no problem and it is only manufactured by conservatives really believe this. Yeah, we’re seeing this again and again now, so I’m finding that pretty hard to believe. When one ignores the facts to suit a predetermined end I’m not inclined to be charitable in my estimation of motivations. Particularly when mine are being outrageously maligned 🙂 We’ll see how the mainstream approaches this, but all signs now are pointing to my path being clear anyway 🤷‍♂️ > [@TT](#): > > Posturing by idiots like Matt Gaetz feeds into this narrative, which is a shame Yep. > [@TT](#): > > To say that ‘CRT isn’t being taught to children so what is all the complaining about, CRT is something else’ is an admission of ignorance (or less often, an outright lie). Indeed, that seems to be the chosen tack. OK ---
**Author:** ![TT](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tt/32/271883_2.png) [@TT](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/TT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1056 "2021-06-24T17:47:28Z")
> [@tempogain](#): > > Yeah, we’re seeing this again and again now, so I’m finding that pretty hard to believe. But the flobbers we’re arguing against now aren’t the ones we were arguing with in February, and these new guys haven’t read the thread, so I give the benefit of the doubt. > [@tempogain](#): > > When one ignores the facts to suit a predetermined end I’m not inclined to be charitable in my estimation of motivations. Particularly when mine are being outrageously maligned 🙂 At least it isn’t in a required PhD course, I was dumbfounded when I returned to Canada for school and all this _clearly connected_ woke shit was thrown around by everyone and not up for discussion. > [@tempogain](#): > > We’ll see how the mainstream approaches this, but all signs now are pointing to my path being clear anyway 🤷‍♂️ Britain and France are making a stand, but it is too late for North America (look at Coca Cola hiring Robin Diangelo, for example). I’m glad I came back to Asia. ---
**Author:** ![Poundsand](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@Poundsand](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Poundsand)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1057 "2021-06-24T17:51:44Z")
> [@TT](#): > > I don’t see the relevance of this post to anything we’re discussing on this thread. It talks about racial equity, crt, and anti-crt “discussions” in schools - how’s that not relevant to anything being discussed on this thread? ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1058 "2021-06-24T17:52:54Z")
> [@TT](#): > > But the flobbers we’re arguing against now aren’t the ones we were arguing with in February, and these new guys haven’t read the thread, so I give the benefit of the doubt. Oh sure. I was talking about the woke media in particular, and we’ll have to see if the mainstream follows this kind of line or not. Parroting this kind of thing sends a clear message to me though. Whatever. > [@TT](#): > > it is too late for North America We’ll see 🙂 > [@TT](#): > > (look at Coca Cola hiring Robin Diangelo, for example). Hiring? That training ruckus lately? They backed down from that somewhat and DiAngelo told them to stop using her stuff because of a copyright issue 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TT](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tt/32/271883_2.png) [@TT](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/TT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1059 "2021-06-24T17:53:20Z")
> [@Poundsand](#): > > It talks about racial equity, crt, and anti-crt “discussions” in schools - how’s that not relevant to anything being discussed on this thread? Please show me where in here you see CRT. I thought the complaint of the day was CRT isn’t relevant to the conversations in schools. You can’t have it both ways. > [@Malasang88](#): > > Ian Prior just pops up everywhere doesn’t he? He’s made quite the career for himself creating groups of feral activists to harass parents, teachers, school boards. > > Multiple reports of racists incidents in the school with kids being called the N word and those of South Asian descent called ISIS. Even the local NAACP (that liberal rag) found Loudon County schools to be a hostile environment after an audit and filed a complaint with the attorney general. > > Loudoun County was once a Republican stronghold, but it has shifted to favor Democrats in recent elections — **Trump lost the county by 24 percentage points last year —** in part due to changing demographics. > > You’re dealing with a situation at a local level where a school district and school curriculum is being politicized,” said Ian Prior, a white Loudoun County parent and **former spokesman for Trump’s Justice Department** who is leading the school board recall effort. “And there are several people — not just me — who absolutely know how to make sure that those things are at least exposed.” > > In 2019, the Loudoun County school district hired a consultant group, the Equity Collaborative, to conduct an audit of the racial climate in schools. Students of color told the Equity Collaborative in focus groups that **white students, teachers and parents had used racial slurs and told them to go back to their country.** > > Other members of the anti-racist group who were named in articles also received messages calling them racial slurs, and telling them, “Go home, you have no place in the USA,” according to screenshots reviewed by NBC News. **Morford, who had flagged Prior and a former congressional candidate as critics of equity initiatives in the anti-racist group, was labeled a “harasser” on a website that listed her email and employer, prompting her to install security cameras**. ---
**Author:** ![TT](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tt/32/271883_2.png) [@TT](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/TT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1060 "2021-06-24T17:55:02Z")
> [@tempogain](#): > > Hiring? That training ruckus lately? They backed down from that somewhat and DiAngelo told them to stop using her stuff because of a copyright issue 🙂 Oh, I thought they paid her for the training (she does the paid work). My mistake. Still, they must have paid someone, and the person they paid chose to use her stuff. ---
**Author:** ![TT](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tt/32/271883_2.png) [@TT](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/TT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1061 "2021-06-24T17:57:21Z")
your words, whatever you’re typing now i likely won’t bother to answer > [@Poundsand](#): > > It doesn’t feel like it has much to do with the issues I have with the right wing current issue boogey man - many of the people railing against it don’t know what it is / what it means to them / it means so many things to so many people that any particular discussion is difficult without painful definitions. you don’t like conservatives, you don’t see a problem in your area. i get it. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1062 "2021-06-24T17:58:17Z")
> [@TT](#): > > Still, they must have paid someone, and the person they paid chose to use her stuff. I think they used an open source resource of some kind. Not sure of all details though. ---
**Author:** ![Poundsand](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@Poundsand](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Poundsand)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736/1063 "2021-06-24T18:01:11Z")
> [@TT](#): > > Please show me where in here you see CRT. > strangely, i read the article. > eliminate any diversity training that incorporated “critical race theory.”…This sentiment popped up in Loudoun County as well, where some parents objected to the district’s equity efforts and sought to block critical race theory from the classroom…our equity work was being misinterpreted as critical race theory… He has spent months arguing that the district used [critical race theory](https://stoplcpscrt.com/2021/03/08/3-7-21-webinar-what-is-crt-and-its-impact-on-loudoun-county-schools/)…demanding the district stop teaching critical race theory… but issued [statements](https://www.lcps.org/site/default.aspx?PageType=3&DomainID=1&ModuleInstanceID=274904&ViewID=6446EE88-D30C-497E-9316-3F8874B3E108&RenderLoc=0&FlexDataID=402039&PageID=1) disputing that it taught critical race theory…students are not focused on the national scrutiny and the debate over critical race theory. > [@TT](#): > > I thought the complaint of the day was CRT isn’t relevant to the conversations in schools. I believe you’re thinking incorrectly, but I’d love to see what I said that gave you that impression. > [@TT](#): > > your words, whatever you’re typing now i likely won’t bother to answer ? > [@TT](#): > > you don’t like conservatives I’m a gun toting, low tax wanting, military industrial contractor. In Georgia. You really think I don’t like conservatives? ;D > [@TT](#): > > you don’t see a problem in your area I see a _big_ problem in my area. [Previous page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736.md?page=52) [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-overdue-critical-race-theory-dei-thread/202736.md?page=54)