The Overdue Critical Race Theory/DEI Thread

I think there is a lot going on in DEI from the good to benign to maybe annoying, somewhat coercive, to probably illegal under civil rights law. The name itself reflects that. It should be up to companies what they want to do within the law.

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Your example was that you regularly see ads of companies looking for marginalized communities. That sounds like great evidence in court should someone ever try to sue a company for discrimination. Thereā€™s nothing contradictory there.

Which is more believable - HR is there to advocate for you or there to protect the company? Thatā€™s his point.

HR is always to protect the company.

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Canadian universities, actually

The federal government said they would no longer give big money grants to straight white men, universities have been hiring accordingly

What is believable is he can talk about fortune 500 companies in the US and be right some of the time.

Exactly it would be foolish to think otherwise. Just as it would be foolish to think companies care about filling a quota. They care about delivering value (i.e. profit) to their shareholders. Part of that is minimizing any threat or risk of being accused of discriminatory hiring practices.

Iā€™m not talking about companies

ā€œAs DEI in American academia is being rolled back, Canada is grappling with a similar force. Here, DEI-related discrimination is actually much more severe than it ever was in the U.S. because itā€™s as long as the groups being discriminated against were the supposed perpetrators of discrimination in earlier times. So, university positions can legally be advertised as being off-limits to white males, for example . Indeed, hiring pools for many of the countryā€™s most prestigious federally financed endowed chairs, the Canada Research Chairs, have been restricted to previously ā€œmarginalizedā€ groups.ā€

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Weā€™re witnessing this in real time in the USA. Taking a knee is long forgotten at a corporate level.

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Preference will be given toā€¦

university positions can legally be advertised as being off-limits to white males, for example

But the other side of that weā€™re seeing is any risk of being accused of violating civil rights law. A lot of it seems to just be on that level, appeasing various baying mobs, rather than concern about best practices. Iā€™m about to go to Costco, Iā€™d like to know more but it sounded like they have good ideas and are sticking to their guns.

Well I am and that was the post was about. Just sharing the perspective from a hiring manager that I found interesting. Companies could actually be exposing themselves to further risk if they rid themselves of any DEI policy since it essentially advertises that they do not practice discrimination in hiring.

Iā€™m not arguing with you about academia or whatever. Just another point of view.

Same as they could be exposing themselves to risk if ignoring title 7. The balancing act is changing and it appears that comanies are taking a pragmatic response.

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What a radical idea

Students should be assessed according to merit, accomplishment, and characterā€”not prejudged by the color of their skin.

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It cost MLK his life in 1968.

My neck still aches from watching Democrats go from rioting for King sixty years ago to a return to support for judging people on the basis of immutable personal characteristics like skin color. Equal parts sad and amazing.

There is a total absence of judgement among todayā€™s left. They continue to show us why they shouldnā€™t hold any power over Americans.

Iā€™m sticking with the Communists from now on, the proper ones

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Unilever trying to move away from all of this
Unilever boss Hein Schumacher quits as company aims to move on from ā€˜social purposeā€™

Probably better for the kid to go directly to Google and not waste his time at college in the US. But still, DEI for me and not for theeā€¦

I agree, but itā€™s good that heā€™s stepping up to the plate for other people. Itā€™s clearly nonsensically unfair.

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