# The Plane Crash Thread

**URL:** <https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531>\
**Category:** Open Forum\
**Created:** [December 29, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531 "2024-12-29T02:49:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2026, 1:57pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/404 "2026-03-23T13:57:49Z")

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> [@tommy525](#):
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> The truck was given permission to cross then quickly told to stop stop stop
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> obviously permission should not have been given

One of the controllers said “I messed up.” 🙁

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/DUyf7-9OI7Q/maxresdefault.jpg "Who controls the runway? A retired air traffic controller explains") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUyf7-9OI7Q)

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**Author:** ![tommy525](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tommy525/32/272487_2.png) [@tommy525](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tommy525)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2026, 2:01pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/405 "2026-03-23T14:01:23Z")

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Everyone fucks up but ATC fuck ups can kill many people

Sad all around

I’d not like to be that guy

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**Author:** ![tommy525](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tommy525/32/272487_2.png) [@tommy525](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tommy525)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 8:27am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/406 "2026-03-25T08:27:47Z")

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OF course its been all over the local (USA) news. Seems the proverbial swiss cheese holes lined up for this accident.

Saw a vid of the plane landing and about to roll out when it smashed into the truck which appeared to be running very fast across the runway and almost got clear of the jet. The whole front end was just demolished. To say the pilots died on the spot is a major understatement, they were likely cut to pieces, two young pilots. Factors in this accident:

1. MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR blunder on the part of the ATC controller.
2. Major Major Major blunder of the fire truck dashing at high speed across the runway. The proper procedure is to stop before crossing the runway and look left and right for any approaching aircraft. This crew did none of that, they proceeded to cut very fast across the runway obviously not having looked at either side.
3. Systematic failure of US ATC practice to have the controller work aircraft about to land/take off as well as ground activity. This is a major safety hole especially at a major airport like La Guardia. US controllers are understaffed. And this controller was handling ground as well as air movements, obviously over whelmed and mistakes can happen especially late at night as was this instance.
4. Most or many other countries landing aircraft when given permission to land is KING but in US airports controllers are still allowing vehicles to cross if there seems room to spare, they are even allowing planes to take off !!! OR giving permission to land when aircraft ahead are still exiting the runway. This practice should stop immediately. NO permission to land should be given while other aircraft are still on the runway and no way should any vehicles even ATTEMPT to cross the runway. This is an extremely sad case of bad practices coming forth to kill those two young pilots. Plus cause injuries to others. Apparently there was a similar case in another US airport of a plane side swiping a fire truck on landing and this time three fire fighters were killed but none on the aircraft.

More controllers are needed, and no controller should be working air movements as well as ground movements. Landing planes must be cleared to land only when actually cleared to land and no other aircraft or vehicle is in the way.

Lives lost here in an almost ridiculous manner

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**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 2:33pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/407 "2026-06-02T14:33:05Z")

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Tragic deaths in K-Town.

> **[T-34 trainer aircraft crashes at Gangshan base, killing 2 pilots - Focus Taiwan](https://focustaiwan.tw/politics/202606020003)**
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> A T-34 trainer aircraft crashed Tuesday morning at Gangshan Air Base in Kaohsiung during a training mission, killing two pilots, according to the Air Force Command Headquarters.

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**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2026, 11:34pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/408 "2026-09-30T23:34:12Z")

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Split this topic on September 30, 2026, 11:34pm UTC

14 posts were split to a new topic: [Stabbed Indian Pilot Foils Crash Plot By Crazed Omani Co-Pilot As Jet Plunged 18,000 Feet](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/stabbed-indian-pilot-foils-crash-plot-by-crazed-omani-co-pilot-as-jet-plunged-18-000-feet/259857)

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**Author:** ![cake](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/cake/32/199931_2.png) [@cake](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/cake)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2026, 2:16pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/409 "2026-10-03T14:16:24Z")

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Interesting investigation involving a flight between Taiwan and S. Africa.

> **[Apartheid and the Helderberg Air Disaster | Jerm Warfare](https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/apartheid-and-the-helderberg-air-disaster-jerm-warfare)**
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> Forensic scientist David Klatzow investigates the 1987 Helderberg aviation disaster. He highlights critical discrepancies with regard to illegal cargo and a massive South African government cover-up.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2026, 3:00am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/410 "2026-10-04T03:00:39Z")

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![IMG_2769](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/4X/5/e/7/5e769de3780f752918c414fc2f29b3513b980d80.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2026, 5:42am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/411 "2026-10-07T05:42:59Z")

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BREAKING: Safari plane carrying 30 people crash lands in Tanzania after striking a zebra during takeoff.

🦓 ✈ 🔥

X is funny: Whats black and white but red all over?

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**Author:** ![slawa](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/slawa/32/112823_2.png) [@slawa](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/slawa)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2026, 6:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/412 "2026-10-07T06:29:03Z")

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Who has priority on the runway when there is a zebra crossing? 😁

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**Author:** ![hannes](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hannes/32/161150_2.png) [@hannes](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hannes)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2026, 8:25am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/413 "2026-10-07T08:25:57Z")

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I have listened to experts about the following three recent incidents

Vietnam Air barely takes off in Munich

Prime Air overshoots the runway

Fly Dubai nearry crashes

Quite interesting:

In the first one, apparently, the captain stepped on the brakes during takeoff… ouch

In the second, the captain ignored multiple warnings and did not go around… ouch

In the third, the captain barely survives and is the hero… yay

Considering how many flights there are, safety is pretty good. In all three above cases, the selection/training of the pilots can be questioned

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**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2026, 10:21pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/414 "2026-11-01T22:21:23Z")

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Lear jet near Palm Beach

[https://x.com/koshercockney/status/2116986986691232155?s=49](https://x.com/koshercockney/status/2116986986691232155?s=49)

[https://x.com/heatedreports/status/2116994731741954133?s=49](https://x.com/heatedreports/status/2116994731741954133?s=49)

Yikes!

 ![IMG_3555](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/4X/4/f/7/4f792b9652328ea7f00de8f55bcd9d80bc32a2f5.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Steve4nLanguage](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/steve4nlanguage/32/180867_2.png) [@Steve4nLanguage](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Steve4nLanguage)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 12:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/415 "2026-11-02T00:34:01Z")

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I shouldn’t have listened to the audio; I can’t get it out of my head now. Terrifying

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**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 12:42am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/416 "2026-11-02T00:42:15Z")

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Yeah— the guy asking “What do you need from me?” Is tragic. Nothing. Nothing to be done. 😞

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**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 2:15am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/417 "2026-11-02T02:15:46Z")

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[https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2116984658185322592?ref\_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^2116984658185322592|twgr^2f95f4edf2e541e61df3ac9c024d717312110483|twcon^s1\_c10&ref\_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.ltn.com.tw%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fbreakingnews%2F5626174](https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2116984658185322592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2116984658185322592%7Ctwgr%5E2f95f4edf2e541e61df3ac9c024d717312110483%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.ltn.com.tw%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fbreakingnews%2F5626174)

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**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 4:24pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/418 "2026-11-02T16:24:08Z")

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That Learjet 60 was flying around a storm, and most likely lost control due to icing. Any structural damage that happened to the tail was likely the result of plummeting at high speed (20k ft. per min) without control, and not the cause of the crash. The model does have anti-icing and de-icing provisions, but maybe the conditions were too severe to be flying in thebfirst place.

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**Author:** ![slawa](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/slawa/32/112823_2.png) [@slawa](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/slawa)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2026, 1:42am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/419 "2026-11-03T01:42:58Z")

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A family with two young kids was on that plane.

[https://x.com/therobbieharvey/status/2117368653218037911](https://x.com/therobbieharvey/status/2117368653218037911)

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**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2026, 2:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-plane-crash-thread/247531/420 "2026-11-03T02:23:18Z")

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It looks like a whole wing is missing, AI?

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