After the election of 320, the society is in a situation of anarchy.
Blood -and -thunder is everywhere.
Who make the incorrect demonstration? :fume:
What is it about people here that they love to throw around the words “chaos” and “anarchy” so much?
Yesterday I walked through the area between KMT headquarters and the Presidential Office. There were no more than four or five people – and they were just waving flags. 
[quote=“Allin”]After the election of 520, the society is in a situation of anarchy.
Blood -and -thunder is everywhere.
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Where? It seems pretty quiet at the moment.
cranky laowai,
I don’t know if political demostrations that serve free food and entertainment can really be described as “chaos” and “anarchy.”
I mean most heavy metal concerts have more “chaos” and “anarchy” than a ROC political protest. And you have to pay money to attend those functions.
Yes, that’s rather what I was saying: Words such as “chaos” and “anarchy” do not accurately describe Taiwan’s situation.
The original poster didn’t use the word chaos; but I often see it in news reports (“the current political chaos,” “the chaos in the educational system,” blah, blah, blah).
This may be a bit overblown but is not entirely unfair.
I have to ride past this area a lot, and sometimes I’m petty.
I like to ride slowly past the sorry crowd of pathetic souls waving flags and call out (in English) “losers, losers”. I’ve finally managed to pick up a DPP campiagn flag, so I’ll attach it to my bike before I do this next time. (OK, pretty sad, but fun).
Brian
[quote]Blood -and -thunder is everywhere.
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Har! Aaargh! Hah hah! Shiver me timbers Jim laad! Splice the mainbrace and break out the grog before I keelhaul ye, ye scurvy son of a sea dog!
I thought talk like a pirate day wasn’t until September. :s
I like the “Taiwan in chaos” thingy, but the only problem is that there’s not too much of that around. I saw a bit on TV a few weeks ago, but that’s that as far as I can see.
Even right around the election most of Taipei was in business as usual mode, however I have wasted a lot of time telling family and friends that things here were pretty normal, with the biggest event in my day to day life being the opening of a convenience store in the comminity I live in.
I think those who say that society is in chaos are those who know it isn’t but would like to see it so.
I think it is all relative. Compare to most western election is was chaos. But for Taiwan it’s normal…like traffic in Taipei is not chaos, once you get use to it.
Fer Chrissakes, this was only the third open presidential election in Taiwan, and the first one didn’t count. Or are you refering to the chaotic normal presidential elections from since 1949?
wolf_reinhold,
The political culture on Taiwan is very chaotic. DPP was established by roiting. DPP in the Legislature going into fist fights is consider chaotic.
But once one get acclimated to this, it becomes normal for us, even a DPP can become president.
I think Luan 亂 is commonly used to describe Taiwan.
Yarr Laads, I be postin’ like a pirate now.Ye who wants ta join me an’ take our catlasses to those landlubben KMT varmits, shout Yarr! We be takin the good ship Banchiaoline to prey on those scurvy dogs.De wenches there be for the takin’ and the booty too.
Simply false.
Chaotic at the time, but overall not so. And the DPP is not the only party involved in scuffles, be fair.
wolf_reinhold,
To be accurate, the DPP usually instigate the scuffles with non-DPP member. They act like Thugs in Legislature on TV for the world to see.
Interesting point you raise there…
Saying things that others disagree with instigates scuffles. And here I roll my eyes heavenward and yawn. (where’s that emoticon?)
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He i [/i]soon launched a physical attack on (the DPP’s) Lai by pushing the him with his elbow and later punched Lai in his waist. Lai, who previously held his hands in the air to avoid a brawl, then grabbed Chu by the throat. But they were soon separated by other lawmakers.[/quote]
This is from the China Post (stuff in brackets is mine, to clarify), which as you know is not the greatest supporter of the DPP. Can’t see the DPP lawmaker (who at least apologised for his involvement) being at fault here (other than to say something that an openly anti-DPP lawmaker disagreed with).
And if a guy has been repeatedly provoked, then why shouldn’t he fight back?! (Fuck the moral high ground! I say “WHAM!”) Oh, wait, I know, because the DPP aren’t allowed to do things like that (re. dispersing violent protestors at post-election demonstrations. You feel the urge to talk about thug-like behaviour for all the world to see?).
This makes me laugh! “You see?! I’m not drunk! This is how I behave when I’m sober!”
Who was that lawmaker who beat up that woman, with some help from his buddies, a few years back? Didn’t she (quite accurately) mention that he had well-known gang ties? (“You calling me a thug?! Yaaargh, come one guys, lets get her!”) Wasn’t he on a suspended sentence as well at the time for other violence?
Maybe you should start looking at what the DPP says for your real ammunition. Scuffles between lawmakers is a drop in the ocean of the political violence under your KMT.
Just some recent ammo for you:
gay marriages would destroy the island because no one would procreate anymore - clearly we’re all closeted homosexuals
all teachers are bastards - except the ones who taught me
Taiwanese men should be allowed to rape Chinese women because that’s how the mainland treats Taiwan - “Whaaaaaat? It’s only a rape analogy!”
HIV-Aids patients should go and live in their own communities where they will not be discriminated against - but it won’t be like leper colonies, we promise, even though AIDS is a punishment from the gods for the despicable lifestyle that gays lead
There are buckets more shit to fling around.
But no, you behave like an ambulance chasing lawyer. Jeez, AC, stop running around saying “See?! I told you so!!”
Well ac_dropout I have figured out your problem…you can’t compare the elections here to most western elections because, in case you missed it, this is not a western country and therefore don’t hold western style elections.
Why don’t you compare it to something a little closer to home, like Indonesian elections… now there are some peaceful events 
…or the Philippines…
[quote=“Vannyel”]Well ac_dropout I have figured out your problem…you can’t compare the elections here to most western elections because, in case you missed it, this is not a western country and therefore don’t hold western style elections.
Why don’t you compare it to something a little closer to home, like Indonesian elections… now there are some peaceful events …or the Philippines…[/quote]
Better still ac_peedribbles, compare Taiwan’s elections with the free and fair elections that mark out China as a bastion of democracy?
Vannyel,
Indonesia and Philippines don’t have fake assassinations during a Presidential Election.
sandman,
Free and fair elections. What are you daft. I was offer 5000 NT for my vote. Someone else offered me a Kitchen pot and pan set.