# The robot revolution thread

**URL:** <https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916>\
**Category:** Technology\
**Tags:** science, robot\
**Created:** [November 4, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916 "2017-11-04T17:37:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![yyy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/yyy/32/12085_2.png) [@yyy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/yyy)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/1 "2017-11-04T17:37:59Z")

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I propose a thread to keep us up to date about developments in AI, not so much the technology itself as how it affects society.

For starters:

> **[AI ‘child’ granted residency in Tokyo - Taipei Times](http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2017/11/05/2003681714)**
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> An artificial intelligence (AI) character was made an official resident of a busy central Tokyo district yesterday, with the virtual newcomer resembling a chatty seven-year-old.
> The boy named “Shibuya Mirai” does not exist physically, but he can have...

_“Human rights aren’t just for humans anymore!”_ 😀 🤖 🌈

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**Author:** ![RickRoll](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/rickroll/32/180921_2.png) [@RickRoll](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/RickRoll)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/2 "2017-11-05T23:54:50Z")

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I think we should check if it’s safe to discuss it first.

Is this topic a good idea?  
@discobot fortune

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**Author:** ![discobot](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/discobot/32/4931_2.png) [@discobot](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/discobot)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/3 "2017-11-05T23:54:52Z")

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> 🔮 Yes

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**Author:** ![RickRoll](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/rickroll/32/180921_2.png) [@RickRoll](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/RickRoll)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/4 "2017-11-05T23:55:31Z")

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Ok, we are safe to go!

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**Author:** ![ranlee](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/ranlee/32/174127_2.png) [@ranlee](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ranlee)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 1:22am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/5 "2017-11-06T01:22:02Z")

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This thread should be renamed to “The countdown to Judgment Day Thread”

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**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 1:46am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/6 "2017-11-06T01:46:48Z")

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Even though this is what I currently do for a living, I keep wondering if it’s wise to deploy AI in a massive scale before we even understand how a neural network can give rise to emotions.

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**Author:** ![wafflestop](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/wafflestop/32/5788_2.png) [@wafflestop](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/wafflestop)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 8:32am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/7 "2017-11-06T08:32:34Z")

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> [@hansioux](#):
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> Even though this is what I currently do for a living, I keep wondering if it’s wise to deploy AI in a massive scale before we even understand how a neural network can give rise to emotions.

We can’t control people yet and we are trying con’troll’ing AI?

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**Author:** ![yyy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/yyy/32/12085_2.png) [@yyy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/yyy)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/8 "2017-11-06T20:47:02Z")

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Nope, we (Forumosa) only have anti-spam AI so far. Anti-troll AI comes later.

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**Author:** ![rowland](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@rowland](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/rowland)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/9 "2017-11-06T21:45:22Z")

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If we’re lucky, the robots will keep humans as pets.

Worst case scenario: they exterminate us as vermin.

Now the transhumanists might be able to make an arrangement. Meet them halfway.

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**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/10 "2017-11-07T02:05:19Z")

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> [@wafflestop](#):
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> We can’t control people yet and we are trying con’troll’ing AI?

I bet that’s what God’s friends said to God when he flooded this planet.

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**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/11 "2017-11-07T02:07:25Z")

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> [@yyy](#):
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> Anti-troll AI comes later.

Anti-troll requires context-awareness for texts, which is easily achieved now with an LSTM neural-network model. I wouldn’t be surprised if there already is a discourse module for anti-trolling out there.

It’d be a bit harder if a troll is trolling with mimes. That would require a convolutional neural-network connected into a LSTM.

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**Author:** ![Bree](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/bree/32/270345_2.png) [@Bree](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Bree)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/12 "2017-11-07T03:44:27Z")

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@yyy is this how ai actually affects society, or how our imaginations want/anticipate it will go?

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**Author:** ![yyy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/yyy/32/12085_2.png) [@yyy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/yyy)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 3:52am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/13 "2017-11-07T03:52:29Z")

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Is society not a construct of our imaginations?  
@discobot fortune

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**Author:** ![discobot](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/discobot/32/4931_2.png) [@discobot](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/discobot)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 3:52am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/14 "2017-11-07T03:52:33Z")

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> 🔮 My reply is no

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**Author:** ![yyy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/yyy/32/12085_2.png) [@yyy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/yyy)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 3:53am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/15 "2017-11-07T03:53:54Z")

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Well then I’m stumped. I guess I need to be upgraded. :doh:

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Milker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dr_milker/32/181996_2.png) [@Dr\_Milker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dr_Milker)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/16 "2017-11-07T04:00:10Z")

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I’d say there’s no rush with the AI research. I don’t need my sex robot telling me all about her “feelings.”

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**Author:** ![Bree](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/bree/32/270345_2.png) [@Bree](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Bree)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/17 "2017-11-07T04:02:12Z")

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You asked a question in the negative and the bot replied no. = yes it’s a metal construct.  
… which opens a can of worms. My mind is meat. One which has fabricated society. So if I ditched the meat body and uploaded, what is left of society? I’d finally be free from evolution-mandated behaviors, but then what? Without chemistry-driven compulsion what is left? All thought is synaptic firings. How can AI ever resemble thought？I wanna be a computer 😑

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Milker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dr_milker/32/181996_2.png) [@Dr\_Milker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dr_Milker)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/18 "2017-11-07T04:04:39Z")

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> [@yyy](#):
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> Well then I’m stumped. I guess I need to be upgraded. :doh:

More evidence that yyy and discobot are one and the same.

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**Author:** ![yyy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/yyy/32/12085_2.png) [@yyy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/yyy)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 5:19am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/19 "2017-11-07T05:19:27Z")

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_Is x not y? No, it is not (y)._ No paradox there.

@Milky, we’ve been over this before, but clearly you haven’t heard the Good News: _the Kingdom (Empire) of Discobot is within!_ 🤖 🌈

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**Author:** ![Bree](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/bree/32/270345_2.png) [@Bree](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Bree)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/the-robot-revolution-thread/164916/20 "2017-11-07T12:31:52Z")

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Ya. I forgot this forum was full of English teachers. Yes, we have no bananas today.

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