The Slavery of Teaching English (Telegraph)

I would hope, Spack, that one does develop language skills through 10 years of teaching English. I would hope one is able to speak and write clearly, precisely and persuasively after all of that. And those abilities should be very marketable.

Sure, one can’t work as a doctor, lawyer or engineer if that’s all one has, but I would think lots of businesses in the West would be happy to hire someone who looks presentable, is fairly bright, can speak and write well, is experienced at organizing lesson plans and leading many groups of individuals, had the courage to move to Asia and strength and wisdom to survive there. Sure thousands have been laid off from technology jobs, but don’t you feel thinking, speaking, writing, strength and independence, etc are marketable skills?

Think, what exactly does an ESL teacher do besides opening and closing their mouths all day, drinking after work, and sleeping. There are many marketable skills in the work of an ESL teacher. It is your job to inform an employer exactly what those skills and abilities are, don’t let them draw their own conclusions.

Yes, if you just write ESL teacher, you’re finished, but by ONLY putting ESL teacher on your resume, I can see why people wouldn’t get another job. Really think about what you have done, really done, while you have teaching, I guarantee that there are skills that any employer would snap up in a second.

If you have been an ESL teacher in Taiwan, and made the most of your time here, you’ll have plenty to put on your resume and you won’t be considered a lazy bum. I marketed myself in NZ, I didn’t even try very hard, and the job offers came in. I test this out on a semi-regular basis and … well, you’ll have to wait for the results, it shouldn’t be long now.

For a brainstorming list go here forumosa.com/3/viewtopic.php?p=137365#137365

MT: “Language skills” in the context of job-hunting is generally taken to mean competence in at least one second language.

All the things you mention are indeed marketable skills, but problem is most people at the interview will have these same qualities, plus experience in a related field.

Also, a skilled interviewer will be able to determine if your ten years as a TEFL teacher makes you a suitable candidate for the job. When you put ‘Head of Personnel department’, when in actual fact your job entailed little more than making sure a handful of teachers handed in their monthly reports on time, a good interviewer will be able to sniff it out. They have a good nose for bullcrap like this.

If English teachers are slaves, what does that make Bassman and Durins Bane ?

The Masters :smiling_imp:

Every job is full of bull crap. It all comes down to which crap has the sweetest smell. Really, that’s it. When I apply for a job I am the best candidate, and that attitude gets the job, maybe not the first time out, but it will pay off as long as you don’t give up. Hell, I have been successful in getting many a “great” job that I never really wanted over much more qualified people. If you are all “Sorry, I was just an ESL teacher” then I guess you’ll end up on the scrap heap.

If you already know what they are going to say or think then you need to take preemptive measures and answer their objections before they can even make the objection.

Another thing, how many teachers ever leave Taiwan with a letter of reference? How many would bother to have a Chinese letter professionally translated? This is the kind of preparation that people need.

You must show an employer that you can do the job. Remember, the other job hunters may be skilled and have experience but most people have terrible job hunting skills and if you are prepared, even a little, you should increase your chances.

I will admit one thing, the age factor, when you are older it all becomes that much harder, but not impossible.

Re: the Masters.
Yes indeed!
If you run your own school you will have marketable skills aplenty.

If you run a chain of schools you will have so much money you won’t care about having to get a ‘proper job’.

Some of the more ‘career-minded’ people here probably have trouble grasping the fact that ‘career’ is not important to some of us. It has never been important to me, that’s why I got an arts degree and generally veered away from the path of furthering my career, acquiring marketbable skills etc. I don’t enjoy the sort of work that sort of thing leads to. I have no ambition to go work in an office again. If you want a career crawling your way up the corporate ladder, then yes, English teaching is not for you, but that kind of argument just doesn’t apply to me.

Brian

I won’t be doing this in 10 years. I won’t own a school in 10 years or a chain of schools. I have done it, it has almost served it’s purpose and it is almost at a sellable stage, I may keep hold of it though, but I don’t see myself in Taiwan for too many years to come. With a bp of 180/100 and blood sugar over 300 I think I’d better slow down in a slower country, NZ. If I don’t it may mean a few more nails in the coffin. :wink: Either that or I need to start taking better care of myself.

Yep, that’s how you do it. Build up the school(s) and then sell them.

What??? It’s been just a few months now, Bassman, hasn’t it? And you’re already getting close to trying to get out?

What??? It’s been just a few months now, Bassman, hasn’t it? And you’re already getting close to trying to get out?[/quote]

Pushing six months and for health reasons I am looking at getting off the island. The school has over 100 Plus students without doing any real advertising. Advertising starts seriously after Chinese New Year. Personally I think that we will clean up. Come July and August things will be really big and we’ll be looking for more space. That will be a prime time to show off to anyone who is looking to buy in or for that matter a perfect time for anyone who needs to, for want of a better word, “sell out”.

Like I said before, I am suffering from diabetes and high blood pressure in a BIG way at the moment and Taiwan is not helping things at all. I have to admit that things were really balanced and under control while I was in NZ over Christmas.

I love the challenge that the school brings and wouldn’t really want to off load such a great “cash cow” but my health and well being are much more important to me right now.

My plan was to start getting a decent turnover after about 6 months and things are pretty much on target. Originally we had been prepared to take a loss for up to a year but, thank Him above, that won’t be happening.

My experience here has proved to be desirable back in NZ but I have to check financially about the move. It’s not a case of “if” but “when” I’ll be off the island.

Back on topic…

That article had some truth in it, but only for a small group of ESL teachers and almost certainly not too many in Taiwan.

I wouldn’t mind the challenge of setting up one more school before I go but it might just kill me. :imp:

I don’t have such a negative view about teaching English in a place like Taiwan. I think it offers a highly attractive way of life to those who take to it with a positive mind.

When I interrupted my rapidly blossoming legal career in London to come to Taiwan to learn Chinese, I intended it as just a short interlude before returning to the lucrative world of lawyering. When I arrived, I took on a limited schedule of teaching, both as a means to cover expenses and, more importantly, as an avenue for meeting the objects of my panting desire (because then I was young, horny, and fixated on Chinese girls, whereas now I’m not so young, still horny and fixated on Chinese girls, but married).

I found myself enjoying the teaching so much, and so content with my lifestyle (teaching a dozen hours a week in the evenings, and spending the rest of my time studying Chinese, scampering about in the hills around Taipei, exercising, reading, and doing all of those pleasurable things that one has barely any time for when caught up in a hectic full-time career) that at first I kept postponing the date of my return to the law, and then I decided to abandon it completely and permanently embrace teaching as a new career.

Then, having become deeply aware of the shortcomings of the available teaching materials, I started to get more and more interested in writing materials of my own tailored to the needs of local students. I enjoyed this, and testing the materials in class and then improving them, enormously. I felt I was doing something creative, constructive, purposeful and valuable, and I loved the buzz I got from interacting with the students, making the English lessons interesting, fun and effective, and providing a good, professional service to meet the students’ diverse needs. It was far more satisfying than anything I’d done or would have done as a lawyer – even though, as a top prize-winner in the national bar exams, I’d had a high-flying career ahead of me and had already achieved notable successes in that sphere.

However, much as I loved the teaching, the writing and the schedule, I was profoundly disgusted with the set-up of English teaching here. I loathed the crooks and charlatans who ran the bushibans, and was deeply dismayed at the way in which the visa regulations bound me to their service (and the low rates of pay I received for the highly profitable classes I taught). Of course, I realized that the only way to go forward was to open my own school, but that required my marrying a local woman and opening the school in her name, and I wasn’t ready for marriage at that time, and wouldn’t have dreamt of marrying just for that purpose. Anyway, I was biding my time, and continuing to develop the teaching program which I’d then have ready for use when I finally had my own school.

After more than six years of living very contentedly in this way, a highly attractive offer of a part-time job in the government came my way, and I decided to take it up on spec while still continuing with the teaching. I took to the new job well, but found it occupying more and more of my time and energy. So then I had to make a difficult decision: if I were to apply myself wholeheartedly to the government job, which offered very appealing prospects, I would need to give up the much-loved teaching. After great agonizing, that was the decision I made. Now, a decade later, though I’m financially secure, have good status in this society, and enjoy a fairly well-balanced life, I still miss those good old days in the EFL classroom, and sometimes wonder if I made the right decision.

So I don’t agree at all that teaching EFL is necessarily a dead-end career and marks those who do it as losers. Like Mother Theresa, Hexuan, and many others, it’s something that I chose to do for a part of my life, found highly rewarding, and would quite happily still be doing if fate hadn’t led me on to something else.

the thing is, we should never work for others, but for ourselves. If that means doing a job well for somebody else in order to get us to where we want to be, so be it. If it means being self employed and getting a more direct result from our actions, so be it. in my working life, if I ever felt like a slave, I quit. If I don’t know what I want to do, I pick something that sounds appealing and do it anyways. Sometimes things work out, sometimes they don’t. As a result, I can perform a lot of different skills to varying degrees of success. It just gets easier as i get older. The only thing I ever slave to is my dreams. the disappointments are just speedbumps.

Good luck with your health, Bassman.
smashy

Well, English teaching to journalism - that guy really took a step up the corporate ladder. :unamused:

A lot of people I know here with houses, cars, and big salaries started out teaching English. What you have here is the choice to save big, or live big - and if you’re a little big smart you can have a bit of both. Job opportunities are still reasonably plentiful, and you can still drink and eat well every evening if you want. I’m still at the stage of spending money like water here, but I’ve only been back a year.

At home I was utterly bemused by the job market. I went for a job working in the back office of a bank doing reconciliations. This is nothing more than a glorified version of the guy in the bookies who totts up who owes what at the end of a day’s racing. But being the World of Merchant Banking, it paid

Thanks for posting the article. In my opinion it was spot-on. I forwarded it to a friend who is still a “slave” with hopes that it would prod him in moving forward with his life.

Frankformosa,

Are you a former English-teaching-slave? What kind of work have you moved forward to? Just curious.

There are some imbeciles in here. Talk to a migrant worker on 15,000 NT a month with no days off. Then mention slavery.