# Traffic rules (hook turn) **URL:** \ **Category:** Living in Taiwan\ **Created:** [April 10, 2023, 3:57pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/traffic-rules-hook-turn/229192 "2023-04-10T15:57:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![taiwantiger](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/taiwantiger/32/175785_2.png) [@taiwantiger](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/taiwantiger)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 3:57pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/traffic-rules-hook-turn/229192/1 "2023-04-10T15:57:51Z")
Hi, Maybe anybody knows the answer here: when you want to do a hook turn on your scooter and ride into the hook turn box, should you use the right turn indicator or none at all? I can’t find anything online and people i asked don’t know and I don’t think this was part of the scooter test. Thx. ---
**Author:** ![SuperS54](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/supers54/32/137985_2.png) [@SuperS54](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/SuperS54)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 4:12pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/traffic-rules-hook-turn/229192/2 "2023-04-10T16:12:31Z")
> [@taiwantiger](#): > > should you use the right turn indicator Good question! Don’t have the official rule on it right now however from experience ~ Definitely not the right indicator or following traffic will think you are turning right and may overtake. I would do left or none at all depending on the circumstance. ---
**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/traffic-rules-hook-turn/229192/3 "2023-04-10T16:20:11Z")
You shouldn’t indicate because you are going straight to the box area. If you indicate, people may think you are turning right, or changing lanes to the left. ---
**Author:** ![Mothproof1152](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mothproof1152/32/209656_2.png) [@Mothproof1152](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mothproof1152)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/traffic-rules-hook-turn/229192/4 "2023-04-10T17:34:37Z")
You’re actually not supposed to use turn signals when doing the hook turn. I only know this because it showed up for me _once_ when doing the practice test a million times. Never saw/heard it mentioned again. Check out question number 504 in the [multiple choice road rules PDF](https://ws.thb.gov.tw/Download.ashx?u=LzAwMS9VcGxvYWQvNDM2L3JlbGZpbGUvMTI4MjMvMTkyNzc5Lzk3MWZiOWIyLTY5ODQtNGNjZS1hYjdmLWFjNDE2ZTY3ZDMwNy5wZGY%3d&n=5qmf6LuK5rOV6KaP6YG45pOH6aGMLeiLseaWhzExMTEyMTMucGRm&icon=..pdf). If the link gets messed up, just find the PDF called `機車法規選擇題-English1111213` on [this page](https://www.thb.gov.tw/News_Download.aspx?n=82&sms=12823). Here’s the question > When a motorcycle is moving into the left turn waiting zone from the lane on the far right, which of the following lights is the correct one to use? (1)the right turn signal (2)the left turn signal (3)it is not necessarily to use any turn signal. Correct answer is 3 ---
**Author:** ![TT](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tt/32/271883_2.png) [@TT](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/TT)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/traffic-rules-hook-turn/229192/5 "2023-04-11T00:32:57Z")
It’s interesting though that not only do many people have no idea so all three can be seen, many don’t signal because they never signal. And why bother signaling, since most don’t care much about the signals, because nobody knows how to use them! :runaway: ---
**Author:** ![lostinasia](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/lostinasia/32/60703_2.png) [@lostinasia](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/lostinasia)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/traffic-rules-hook-turn/229192/6 "2023-04-11T00:40:32Z")
> [@TT](#): > > It’s interesting though that not only do many people have no idea so all three can be seen I often do both: briefly indicate right because after all I’m moving across traffic on the right side to get over near the box, and then left because I’m swinging left into the box. But interesting to finally find out what the rules are! Thanks @Mothproof1152! I think the indicators I see most often are from those who turned them on in 2019 and haven’t yet got around to turning them off. ---
**Author:** ![the\_bear](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/the_bear/32/192391_2.png) [@the\_bear](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/the_bear)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/traffic-rules-hook-turn/229192/7 "2023-04-11T00:47:00Z")
I didn’t even know it was called a hook turn. Always just 代轉 to me. ---
**Author:** ![SuperS54](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/supers54/32/137985_2.png) [@SuperS54](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/SuperS54)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 1:45am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/traffic-rules-hook-turn/229192/8 "2023-04-11T01:45:54Z")
[Hook turn - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hook_turn) ---
**Author:** ![taiwantiger](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/taiwantiger/32/175785_2.png) [@taiwantiger](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/taiwantiger)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 10:45am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/traffic-rules-hook-turn/229192/9 "2023-04-13T10:45:10Z")
Thank you all for the replies. ---
**Author:** ![Brendon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/brendon/32/174145_2.png) [@Brendon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brendon)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 10:50am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/traffic-rules-hook-turn/229192/10 "2023-04-13T10:50:02Z")
> [@TT](#): > > And why bother signaling, since most don’t care much about the signals, because nobody knows how to use them! So you don’t get a nonsense 1200nt fine for failing to do so, like I did a few weeks ago! ---
**Author:** ![11173](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/11173/32/191308_2.png) [@11173](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/11173)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 10:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/traffic-rules-hook-turn/229192/11 "2023-04-13T10:51:43Z")
you’re a hook turn ---
**Author:** ![lostinasia](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/lostinasia/32/60703_2.png) [@lostinasia](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/lostinasia)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 10:55am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/traffic-rules-hook-turn/229192/12 "2023-04-13T10:55:32Z")
> [@Brendon](#): > > So you don’t get a nonsense 1200nt fine for failing to do so, like I did a few weeks ago! They actually give tickets for that here?! Wow! Were you driving a car or a scooter? (Or, what would absolutely shock me, a bicycle?) ---
**Author:** ![Brendon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/brendon/32/174145_2.png) [@Brendon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brendon)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 11:41am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/traffic-rules-hook-turn/229192/13 "2023-04-13T11:41:33Z")
Scooter. And I’ve heard other people are getting them lately too. Maybe a policy change. I’m seeing a lot more scooters indicating, usually randomly. ---
**Author:** ![springonion](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/springonion/32/209244_2.png) [@springonion](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/springonion)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 5:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/traffic-rules-hook-turn/229192/14 "2026-09-14T05:37:13Z")
A new rule has been added to this hook turn rule which says “If a scooter rider intends to make a left turn and is entering the Hook Turn box, the wheels cannot touch the Zebra crossing lines otherwise the rider will be fined $1800 if reported or caught by a cop. Also, if the box is full, then one shouldn’t try to squeeze into it but instead head to the next crossing and make 2 hook turns and then take a right turn” 🙄 . A lot of riders are enraged at this stupid rule considering most of the turn boxes are too small in size and are almost always located a few inches in front or behind a zebra crossing thus making it impossible not to avoid riding on the zebra crossing lines. [Hook turn new rule](https://ctinews.com/news/items/q9WPP0BJWm?fbclid=IwY2xjawUUXT5wZG9mBWV4dG4DYWVtAjEwAGJyaWQRMUI2SG80NWN4S1hFR2hQR2NzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeBeqx3opUfzPyy8bv8-PFvcjX_iblx-_ZWOP2F6AsA2QhHZZVLIZDjvUIv58_aem__NnoZRfW4Z-xVT-vNlkmNw)