Traveling during Covid-19

Check what various countries say about transit or exit on most direct way. Only very few EU countries still do border controls (one such country is Slovakia - no entry without 72h test or fully vaccinated). However many you can enter without test, or they allow you to enter with test requiring qurantine except if you leave the country on the most direct way. So just book a flight to another country then where you want to stay - and move over the border to another one (which will not check).

Especially Netherlands is super lenient. I have some family members who cross two to three times per week Netherlands to Germany or back because they kinda live on both sides of the border. No single time since the beginning of the pandemic have they ever been stopped. Also the border was never actually closed. Austrian border to Germany was different - a) because Austria was stricter at some points in time (not now) b) you usually cross into Bavaria, and Bavaria has been the most strict state of Germany concerning border regulations.

For crossing into Germany there is a paper form if you cannot register online - many many people use it. No check on border, throw paper away instead of quarantining. There is one single problem - if you cross into another country and within 14 days test positive - they will likely fine you (but fines for such things arent too expensive in most countries).

And in 3-4 weeks I am sure inside Schengen all controls will be abolished. Many countries start talking about dropping the mask requirement except for sensitive places like hospital, doctor waiting room and so on in a couple of weeks when they reach 50% fully vaccinated.

50% vaccinated (22 days after first dose), plus those with previous infection - that seems enough to get the numbers down pretty quick - well plus more an more time spent outdoors now due to summer in Europe…

I am pretty sure as long as you are vaccinated, there will not be any restrictions inside Schengen again next winter. They are using many restrictions to kinda force people to vaccinate. Not vaccinated = second class citizen in the EU. Very clear now.

Italy however was super strict at borders, but also inside the country often moving around forbidden and controlled heavily. They now seem to be one of the first to open up for tourism however.

Not being able to fly direct, a transfer would be required in either Singapore, USA or Middle East, and some are bound to have a PCR test requirement, not to mention the extortionate airfares.

Staying home saves money, and keeps Blood Pressure down, while planning for the big trip some years hence when all this is over (maybe).

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And buying foreign currency you may need. The yen is still low…

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Is Ebola still the go there?

This website is not comprehensive. It has some minor mistakes from certain countries. It is a good base though. I’d suggest to always confirm with the official government websites to double confirm.

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Yes that’s always important. Also check if the airline or transfer point have additional requirements.

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Interesting that TW now has more COVID cases and over twice as many deaths as VN, even though VN is almost 4 times as big (population) and has a land border with China, Laos and Cambodia.

What is the current state of Taiwan issuing visitor visas for family of foreigners living in Taiwan? Are they allowing it again now? I heard they had suspended it for two weeks but didn’t hear if the suspension was extended or just expired.

Till June 18, at this moment


Thanks. Any details of what humanitarian reasons include?

Importing vaccines!

An actual example given was visiting a critically ill (or worse) family member.

In what ways is it interesting?


Well for one, it’s evidence that VN’s more aggressive approach to testing and targeted lockdowns of hotspots is more effective than TW’s current approach, which is far less aggressive. It might be too late for TW to get back to 0 but it’s not too late to start learning from other countries and improving the situation by doing things that have been proven to be effective and avoiding things that have proven to not be effective.

And two, it could be a hint that TW is missing a good number of cases. The % of severe cases and deaths in TW right now looks awfully high for a developed country. One possible/likely explanation for this is that TW is not catching a lot of cases, especially asymptomatics, which makes severe cases and deaths look like a bigger % than they really are.

At this point in time there is no evidence that VC’s aggressive approach to testing is effective. I think it probably will be.

Your arguments seem to be all over the place. Were you not saying earlier that mass testing creates issues? Perhaps it was another poster.

Maybe you’re thinking of someone else. I’m not an advocate for testing everybody everywhere 3 times a day. I am an advocate for aggressive targeted testing.

In the absence of vaccines, large-scale, reasonably targeted testing has been used in just about every country that has managed to contain large outbreaks. SK, VN, HK, SG, NZ, AUS.

There’s a difference between testing aggressively in a targeted manner and testing everybody everywhere.

Once the cat is out of the bag there’s no getting back to 0 but aggressive, targeted testing gives you the ability to find out where the cases are and then identify the infected as quickly as possible so that you can cut off many of the transmission chains.

I must have been. I do apologize.

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Actually they asked ministro Chen how come so many younger folk had died. He replied that they were initially asymptomatic and by the time they got to the hospital, they were too far along and little could be done for them. :eek:

Not always so useful though.

Asked why the United States is maintaining the warnings even though some countries now have low infection rates subject to the restrictions, while others with high rates are exempt, CDC Director Rochelle Wallensky said on Tuesday the issue is subject to “an interagency conversation, and we are looking at the data in real time as to how we should move forward with that.”