Traveling during Covid-19

That’s not good news. That’s complete bullshit. It’s about one year too late. Explain to me why Japan has been deemed “safe” since last year yet Taiwan is only safe now that there’s an outbreak at last.

The only reason I can think of is that the EU is China’s bitch.

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anyone know what this is?

I spell slowly: Li-ber-ti-es Com-mit-tee

It’s just brilliant, innit? There actually is a “Liberties Committee” whose job it is to decide, apparently above all national governments, what liberties the serfs will be allowed to have. How the hell did that happen? It’s the first I’ve even heard of it. George Orwell would have been tickled pink.

I’d say it’s plus-brilliant.

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These developments may be of interest to Canadians seeking to travel to Canada in the summer:



Here is the email sent out to registered Canadians.

Note that proof of vaccination in languages other than English or French must by translated by an approved certified translator.
Contact your local Embassy or consulate in advance of travel to obtain the contact details of a translator in your area.

  • On June 21st, 2021 the Government of Canada announced the extension of some of Canada’s border measures as well as some changes to current measures that will begin to ease some testing and quarantine requirements for fully vaccinated travellers who are currently permitted to enter Canada.

Easing of border measures

Beginning July 5, 2021 at 11:59 p.m. EDT, fully vaccinated travellers will not be required to quarantine or complete a day-8 test. In addition, fully vaccinated travellers arriving by air will not be required to stay at a government-authorized hotel to await their on-arrival test result.

Unvaccinated minors or dependent adults who are travelling with fully vaccinated travellers must still quarantine for 14 days and follow all testing requirements, but are not required to stay at a government-authorized hotel.

To be eligible for these exemptions, fully vaccinated travellers must still meet the pre-entry and on-arrival testing requirements, be asymptomatic and submit all required COVID-19 information electronically into ArriveCAN prior to travel to Canada, have a paper or digital copy of their proof of vaccination, and have a suitable quarantine plan.

Fully-vaccinated travellers

To be considered fully vaccinated, travellers must have received the full series of a COVID-19 vaccine — or combination of vaccines — accepted by the Government of Canada, at least 14 days prior to entering Canada. Currently, those vaccines are manufactured by Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca/COVISHIELD, and Janssen (Johnson & Johnson). Travellers must provide proof of vaccination in English or French (or a certified translation).

You will find below the list of accepted and not accepted vaccines at the moment. We recommend that you visit the section entitled Determine if you’re fully vaccinated regularly as the list of accepted vaccines may expand in the future.

Accepted vaccines:

  • Pfizer (Comirnaty, tozinameran, BNT162b2)
  • Moderna (mRNA-1273)
  • AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria, AZD1222, Covishield)
  • Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) - single dose

Vaccines not currently accepted for fully vaccinated status in Canada:

  • Bharat Biotech (Covaxin, BBV152 A, B, C)
  • Cansino (Convidecia, Ad5-nCoV)
  • Gamalaya (Sputnik V, Gam-Covid-Vac)
  • Sinopharm (BBIBP-CorV, Sinopharm-Wuhan)
  • Sinovac (CoronaVac, PiCoVacc)
  • Vector Institute (EpiVacCorona)
  • Other

Travellers can receive their vaccine in any country but must provide a certified translation confirming their vaccination status if proof of vaccination is not provided in English or French.

The Government of Canada will accept translations that were produced by a certified translator whose certification can be confirmed by a stamp or membership number with a professional translation association.


Only those travellers who are currently eligible to enter Canada and are now fully vaccinated, are eligible for these new measures if they meet specific criteria and requirements. Specific questions regarding quarantine measures can be directed to the Public Health Agency of Canada Contact Us - Public Health Agency of Canada.

Only individuals with a right of entry (Canadian citizens, permanent residents and persons registered under the Indian Act ), as well as some foreign nationals who are not prohibited from entering Canada under the Orders in Council ( Prohibition of Entry into Canada from the United States ; Prohibition of Entry into Canada from any Country other than the United Stat es) can currently enter Canada.

Individuals can verify if they are allowed to enter Canada.

Not fully-vaccinated travellers

There are no changes to Canada’s current border measures for travellers who are not fully vaccinated. Travellers must continue to adhere to the current testing and federal 14-day quarantine requirements, and provide COVID-19-related information electronically through ArriveCAN before arriving in Canada. Unvaccinated and partially vaccinated air travellers must also book a three-night stay at a government-authorized hotel before their departure to Canada.

Persons who have recovered from COVID-19 can continue to test positive long after they have recovered and are no longer infectious. Travellers who have previously tested positive for COVID-19 must provide proof of a positive COVID-19 molecular test conducted between 14 and 90 days prior to their scheduled flight.*


I was hoping they’d get at least get rid of the three-day quarantine in a government hotel but unfortunately they didn’t. It’s a pain that our vaccinations were cancelled.

But I’ve given up waiting and am flying to Canada anyway even if we have to do the quarantine. Now I’m living in fear that the COVID-19 test you need to fly will come back positive for one of us or that the airline will cancel our flights because I won’t get my money back if I have to cancel that three-day hotel.

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Anyone seen this? Can you get vaccinated in Belgium as a non resident foreigner?


Immediately prohibiting inbound passengers from airport pick-ups by relatives and friends
CECC announced, CNA reported, Google translated


Relevant to the EU digital covid passport. No plants are approved outside of Europe for AZ yet.


This is good news. Hopefully the UK will follow suit (eventually) and I’ll be able to make a long-postponed visit back ‘home’.

That’s news has gotta be a kick in the nuts for some.

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Well it looks like it will be for huge numbers of folks.
I could be a leper stranded outside every pub just like here in Taiwan. :joy:


It might be a good thing. If millions of people find themselves branded second-class citizens just because they failed to anticipate which way the political currents are flowing, there might be enough collective anger for people to say “fck this for a game of soldiers”. People might be less inclined to comply if TPTB are not holding up their end of the bargain.

Or people might simply fall over themselves to comply in even more craven ways. :popcorn:

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Didn’t the first lot of A-Z doses that Taiwan received come from Korea?

“South Korea’s SK Bioscience” is one of the ones that the EU doesn’t recognise.

AND - “The EMA has only approved AstraZeneca vaccine manufacturing sites in the EU, the United States, the United Kingdom, and China” - so that would also affect those manufactured in Japan.


Wait a minute, they do not approve SK or Japan but China is OK?? :ponder:

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That’s what it says. But does somebody manufacture AZ in China ?
And if they do they must have applied for EMA approval.

Which country has more economic clout. ?

Yes…but also more violations to health codes, WTO agreements, contracts…etc ad nauseam.

In health issues, reliability means savings. Errors cost a lotta money…and China is not the one that will fork it out.