šŸ˜· COVID | Traveling during Covid-19

This website is not comprehensive. It has some minor mistakes from certain countries. It is a good base though. Iā€™d suggest to always confirm with the official government websites to double confirm.

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Yes thatā€™s always important. Also check if the airline or transfer point have additional requirements.

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Interesting that TW now has more COVID cases and over twice as many deaths as VN, even though VN is almost 4 times as big (population) and has a land border with China, Laos and Cambodia.

What is the current state of Taiwan issuing visitor visas for family of foreigners living in Taiwan? Are they allowing it again now? I heard they had suspended it for two weeks but didnā€™t hear if the suspension was extended or just expired.

Till June 18, at this moment

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Thanks. Any details of what humanitarian reasons include?

Importing vaccines!

An actual example given was visiting a critically ill (or worse) family member.

In what ways is it interesting?

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Well for one, itā€™s evidence that VNā€™s more aggressive approach to testing and targeted lockdowns of hotspots is more effective than TWā€™s current approach, which is far less aggressive. It might be too late for TW to get back to 0 but itā€™s not too late to start learning from other countries and improving the situation by doing things that have been proven to be effective and avoiding things that have proven to not be effective.

And two, it could be a hint that TW is missing a good number of cases. The % of severe cases and deaths in TW right now looks awfully high for a developed country. One possible/likely explanation for this is that TW is not catching a lot of cases, especially asymptomatics, which makes severe cases and deaths look like a bigger % than they really are.

At this point in time there is no evidence that VCā€™s aggressive approach to testing is effective. I think it probably will be.

Your arguments seem to be all over the place. Were you not saying earlier that mass testing creates issues? Perhaps it was another poster.

Maybe youā€™re thinking of someone else. Iā€™m not an advocate for testing everybody everywhere 3 times a day. I am an advocate for aggressive targeted testing.

In the absence of vaccines, large-scale, reasonably targeted testing has been used in just about every country that has managed to contain large outbreaks. SK, VN, HK, SG, NZ, AUS.

Thereā€™s a difference between testing aggressively in a targeted manner and testing everybody everywhere.

Once the cat is out of the bag thereā€™s no getting back to 0 but aggressive, targeted testing gives you the ability to find out where the cases are and then identify the infected as quickly as possible so that you can cut off many of the transmission chains.

I must have been. I do apologize.

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Actually they asked ministro Chen how come so many younger folk had died. He replied that they were initially asymptomatic and by the time they got to the hospital, they were too far along and little could be done for them. :eek:

Not always so useful though.

Asked why the United States is maintaining the warnings even though some countries now have low infection rates subject to the restrictions, while others with high rates are exempt, CDC Director Rochelle Wallensky said on Tuesday the issue is subject to ā€œan interagency conversation, and we are looking at the data in real time as to how we should move forward with that.ā€

Will be interesting to see if itā€™s possible to get the vaccine passport as an EU citizen when your vaccine is given outside EU. I guess it wonā€™t be possible to prevent fraud.

"Chair of the Civil Liberties Committee and rapporteur Juan Fernando LĆ³pez Aguilar (S&D, ES) said: ā€œToday Parliament has set the pace to restore free movement and a fully functional Schengen while we continue to fight this pandemic. The EU Digital COVID Certificate will function from 1st July, and will ensure safe and coordinated travel this summer. EU states are encouraged to refrain from imposing further restrictions, unless strictly necessary and proportionate, and it is reassuring that some are already issuing the certificate.ā€œ

The certificate will be issued free of charge by national authorities and be available in either digital or paper format containing a QR code. The document will certify that a person has been vaccinated against COVID-19, has a recent negative test result or has recovered from the infection. In practice, these will be three distinct certificates. A common EU framework will make certificates interoperable and verifiable across the European Union, as well as prevent fraud and forgery."

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Good news!

ā€œThe European Union (EU) has decided today, June 16, to lift the EU-wide entry ban for Taiwanese citizens during a memberā€™s gathering in Brussels. Alongside Taiwan, the EU has also removed the ban for United States travellers.ā€

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Donā€™t get that. No quarantine if they were vaccinated in Taiwan but quarantine if outside Taiwan. This is weird. Wonder if Taiwan is going to do the same thing with other people. Would not be fair at all.

wait for US and EU to impose reciprocal requirements on Taiwanese. The policy will change next day

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