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To be fair, you said “bucks” which is the colloquial way to say US Dollars.
You say this like I somehow mistreated you. lol
I never forget.
Why would I be talking about a foreign currency for domestic land purchases? As a rule, local currency is always used for domestic purchases. If anyone is getting quoted USD, Euro, Yen, RMB etc for land, just assume one is getting right fucked on price for being ignorant/naive.
It is easy to find houses for 3 million still. But I was mentioning land size. 6 fen. Roughly 2.5 acres or half a hectare. Roughly* the thing to keep in mind is what you get. Comparing to abroad is basically pointless. Taiwnas real estate has exploded. People sit and wait based on speculation. The only way to avoid that is dismiss agents, internet and go talk to old people every day and network. Deals can be made. Agents here are as greasy as they come
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This has always been a thing. The precise reason I already mentioned many times on this site it often ends in court. But end of the day, if Adult A makes a decision to rent land for xxx years, they really shouldn’t cry later. Especially now when information is freely available.
That said, many people have their specific ways of life. I love indigenous people here. Many of my friends are, and my work largely revolves with working with them. But I can’t live in their communities because I REALLY want privacy once I check out from work. They tend to be waaaaay more social than me. Int he sense, I don’t want people coming by un announced. That is often not possible in the communities I have been in. It isn’t who is right, it is we are different. I would consider this ebclfore making a move. Most of the time I have seen the aboriginal community get pissed off at an outsider that leased land is because they built a fence and shut them out. That seems a big line in many places. At least in my experience.
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Isn’t part of the problem multiple owners? Or that A is not in fact the person who has the right to rent the land? A little due diligence and patience can probably avoid this problem.
This is an important point and very much tallies with what I have experienced. In my case, I would be fine with this.
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So Taitung County has pretty strict rules about chicken farms. These look like commercial farming. But still worth taking a look since you need to farm commercially.
https://law.taitung.gov.tw/LawContent.aspx?id=GL000315
There also seem to be rules about free range chickens.
There was an article from about a decade ago about proposed rule changes that were making free range chicken raisers unhappy. Not sure what happened in the end.
No, I don’t.
I just met a guy who raises his own chickens. No problem.
Thanks for your concern tho.
Why not? I’m genuinely curious. I’m interested in doing something similar myself.
There have been many foreigners who opened business because they saw another guy doing it with no problem. Then it turned out there were zoning or other problems that forced the foreigner to go out of business.
I’m really not trying to rain on your parade. I’m trying to spot issues that might come up not dissuade you from following your dream. I know plenty of people who are living happily on the east coast and want to know how to do it correctly.
As you said yourself, some degree of courage and moxy is required to do what you want to do in Taiwan. You seem to have it in spades. Bravo!
My mom used to raise chickens in the backyard, in Texas. She grew up on a farm and all that.
Used to be you had live chickens at the wet market and they would slaughter it for you. Had some traumatizing childhood moments over this.
Then bird flu came and the live chicken thing became illegal.
I don’t know what’s the rule in Taiwan for raising chicken in your backyard to eat them.
FWIW, I have seen posts online from Taiwanese who had to cut down fruit trees after they told the inspectors that they were for self-consumption. No economic value seemed to be the problem. Again, this is just stuff seen online. Making jam and selling a bit might be a workaround.
I get the sense the Taiwan government has no idea about people doing stuff as a hobby.
Like if you’re cutting wood and neighbor reports you for the noise they’ll make you register a business.
I don’t want to. It seems like a lot of work.
Well, this guy was raising them in his backyard. Not a business, just part of the keeping his farmland farmed.
You don’t get anywhere sitting around. And I ask 100 questions before making one move. So I won’t grow a cabbage without knowing its legal and safe to eat.
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This might be a useful reference.
https://law.moa.gov.tw/glrsnewsout/LawContent.aspx?id=GL000925
There are some very specific rules about how much land has to be used for what and something about either selling NT$250k in produce or buying NT$150k in equipment annually. All seems doable but a lot of pesky rules.
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You may be thinking about how foreigners are not allowed to own a company making money off certai. Industries. Farming, fisheries, cattle and forestry are the big 4 no no. We can work in the industry, as I do, but we can’t be the company owners. For me, my wife owns the company. Thus, ok now.
There are other things like in water protection areas you can’t raise animals for pollution reasons. Need to check your area. That has nothing to do with foreigners.
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Yes. Hit up a weekend market once or twice a month. Very easy to get around this. If it looks like a farm, you won’t be asked.
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Problem really is no spare land even if you wanted to rent. Many people from the village stay in my wife’s guest house for events here as they no longer have places here anymore. It would not be an issue to do what you suggest.