Troops halp Jon Carry in Irak

Who is this guy again? Didn’t he say he was “in Viet Nam” or something?

[quote]On his visit to Iraq, Senator Kerry apparently got something like the silent treatment from the troops who are “stuck” there. WDAY’s Scott Hennen quotes a message from a friend serving in Iraq:

This is a true story....Check out this photo from our mess hall at the US Embassy yesterday morning. Sen. Kerry found himself all alone while he was over here. He cancelled his press conference because no one came, he worked out alone in the gym w/o any soldiers even going up to say hi or ask for an autograph (I was one of those who was in the gym at the same time), and he found himself eating breakfast with only a couple of folks who are obviously not troops.

What is amazing is Bill O'Reilly came to visit with us and the troops at the CSH the same day and the line for autographs extended through the palace and people waited for two hours to shake his hand. You decide who is more respected and loved by us servicemen and women! 

Scott comments:

Again I say..."GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS!!"

I think it’s fair to say that the photo qualifies for consideration as part X of James Taranto’s series on the troops responding to Charles Rangel’s reiteration of John Kerry’s calumny (see today’s incredible part IX of Taranto’s series here).

UPDATE: Scott writes that he’ll be filling in for Sean Hannity on his radio show Wednesday and Thursday, and promises to talk about the photo. Scott is one of the best local talk radio hosts in the country. Check him out on the [/url=http://www.hannity.com/]Hannity[/url] show this week."
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I think I remember some old Volvos with bumper stickers for this guy on them…

hehehe

Another posting of this…

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Right-wing lies and propaganda - they sure work.

Left wing denials and hubris - they sure are fun to watch. :laughing:

Left wing denials and hubris - they sure are fun to watch. :laughing:[/quote]

Have I missed something? When was it shown that Kerry said anything other than a botched joke about BUSH?

Left wing denials and hubris - they sure are fun to watch. :laughing:[/quote]

Have I missed something? When was it shown that Kerry said anything other than a botched joke about BUSH?[/quote]

I agree! He’s said pretty much NOTHING else. :laughing:

Left wing denials and hubris - they sure are fun to watch. :laughing:[/quote]

Hmmm? Kerry told a joke about Bush, and messed it up. This is documented fact, as it was written in the text of the speech he was reading from as “you’ll end up getting us stuck in Iraq” (i.e. as Bush did). But the right-wing spinmeisters and Bush himself knowingly lied about what Kerry said.

Why then are you happy he is being vilified by the troops for something he did not say? He was not shunned for saying a dumb joke about Bush, was he?

You guys seem to think that this was the ONLY thing Kerry ever said about the the US military. Joke schmoke. Kerry’s a first class penile gland.

Oh you gents ARE funny! (and I do appreciate that, being stuck at work and all. )

[quote=“jdsmith”]You guys seem to think that this was the ONLY thing Kerry ever said about the the US military. Joke schmoke. Kerry’s a first class penile gland.

Oh you gents ARE funny! (and I do appreciate that, being stuck at work and all. )[/quote]

Kerry is a good and honorable man, and would have made a superb president. He’s sure had his criticisms about the military, such as the behavior of renegade soldiers in Vietnam, but he has great respect for the institution itself.

The right wing is the joke: unable to come up with legitimate criticisms against him, they resort to lies, spin, and statements such as “he looks French” as arguments against Kerry.

[quote=“jdsmith”]You guys seem to think that this was the ONLY thing Kerry ever said about the the US military. Joke schmoke. Kerry’s a first class penile gland.

Oh you gents ARE funny! (and I do appreciate that, being stuck at work and all. )[/quote]

You guys? I have made no such claim. I’m asking questions here to get to truth as I’ve been away for a few weeks with little access to the media and thought there might have been some new development. Nope, same old nonsense.

And what do you mean “the only thing?” Kerry’s recent joke was not about the military at all. It was about Bush. However, let’s say that it was about the people who serve in the military. You do get it that you are proving the point with every post you make here? :raspberry:

This thread is really childish. You can snigger at Kerry because he’s a Democrat, but Kerry DID serve in Vietnam honorably. Bush dodged the draft. Kerry walked the walk. Bush is a phoney. End of story.

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I’m asking questions here to get to truth as I’ve been away for a few weeks with little access to the media [/quote]
Well, THAT was a mistake! :laughing:

Wow, TainanCowboy…is this one of your discussion threads that you have started after wots of research or is this one of those agenda-driven threads that you hypocritically rail against?

We should be told because our puny minds just can’t keep up with you, oh wisest army caterer of them all.

Funny thread title though or were you bonding with the Wall-Mart warriors?

BroonArmy

Kerry is to me as Bush is to you.

I claim no superiority. :smiley:

jdsitsinthemudtoo

Oh, if you say so, that must settle it. :unamused:

[quote=“Chris”][quote=“jdsmith”]You guys seem to think that this was the ONLY thing Kerry ever said about the the US military. Joke schmoke. Kerry’s a first class penile gland.

Oh you gents ARE funny! (and I do appreciate that, being stuck at work and all. )[/quote]

Kerry is a good and honorable man, and would have made a superb president. He’s sure had his criticisms about the military, such as the behavior of renegade soldiers in Vietnam, but he has great respect for the institution itself.

The right wing is the joke: unable to come up with legitimate criticisms against him, they resort to lies, spin, and statements such as “he looks French” as arguments against Kerry.[/quote]

How about his meeting with North Vietnamese Commies in Paris, while he was still on inactive reserve?

And I don’t think he looks French, I think he looks fake. I don’t believe there is one genuine word that squeeks out from his flapping lips. Opportunist potatohead.

Still…not even completing ANG service. That’s bad. Worse even than my pacifist uncle who still found a way to serve in Vietnam.

No wonder Bush has screwed up the military as much as he has.

Here’s a follow-up to the picture fiasco.

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Firstly, ANYONE who uses pictures inappropriately is a dickhead. 'nuff said.[quote]

Over at the Forum, liberal commenters weighed in with the “EXIF” argument, and added other reasons why the photo couldn’t possibly have been taken at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad. Here is a comment by one “Angus,” who was cited reverently at some of the moonbat sites:

Three things make me think this picture does not say what many suppose it to say.

#1. The EXIF data on the unenhanced photo shows that it was taken on January 9, 2006. On that day, John Kerry was in London, England.

#2. There is a Portugese flag in the background. Portugal withdrew all of its troops in February 2005.

#3. The hall is half empty, with only one uniformed soldier in sight, which means there were a lot of civilians dining with other civilians near empty chairs.

None of us had ever heard of EXIF data, so I downloaded some software and verified that the “date taken” was indeed shown as January 9, 2006. I also found that the camera that took the photo was identified as a ViviCam 8400. I was curious about the date, but the obvious explanation that occurred to me was that the owner of the camera hadn’t set the date and time function. I did a few minutes of research, and found two things. First, according to the Associated Press (scroll down), John Kerry left the United States on January 9, 2006, for a twelve-day international tour. He traveled on the 9th, and his first overseas appearance was in London on January 10 (not with troops). At 12:57 on January 9, the time shown in the EXIF data, Kerry was in transit, likely on an airplane over the Atlantic Ocean. (Note, by the way, that the moonbats had done enough research to find that Kerry left the U.S. for London on January 9. This didn’t work for them; you can’t depart the U.S. for London on a seven-hour flight, lose five hours, and be sitting in a dining hall at 12:57. So they just changed the facts, claiming that Kerry was in London on January 9.)

The second thing I found was that the ViviCam 8400 is a new product that wasn’t launched until February 2006.

So the photo obviously couldn’t have been taken on January 9, 2006. This reinforced my original assumption that the date/time function on the camera that took the photo hadn’t been set. I was struck by the fact that this obvious explanation had never, as far as I could tell, been addressed by any of the moonbats. For the most part they had simply ignored the simplest explanation, and no one, as far as I could see, had tried to rebut it. They had simply hurled abuse and invective at us on the basis of unsupported assumptions.

The “issue” of the flags was similarly puzzling. What is so strange about the U.S. Embassy displaying the flags of our coalition partners? Nothing. And did the moonbats really think the fact that the Embassy didn’t tear the Portuguese flag down in disgust when the Portuguese departed Iraq meant anything in particular? Hard to believe.

After we and others pointed out that the picture couldn’t possibly have been taken on January 9, 2006, some of the moonbats admitted their error. But most just slithered away, prepared to become hysterical once again when the next “opportunity” presents itself. Just in case there are still any doubters out there, we thought it would be fun to drive a final stake through the moonbats’ theories by asking the soldier who was the source of the photo to take another one: this time, in the same location, but holding a copy of today’s newspaper. He happily obliged; these two photos were the result. Once again, click to enlarge.

In this picture, you can see the dining facility at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, with the subject holding the Stars & Stripes newspaper for today, December 29, 2006:

Here is another one, showing a closer view of the paper:

If you subject these photos to the same analysis as the original one, you will see that the EXIF data indicate they were taken on January 21, 2006–twelve days after the original Kerry picture. In fact, of course, they were taken on December 29, 2006. The photos’ source writes:

Here is the smoking gun!!

Two photos taken of the exact location of the first photos in the same DFAC, 12 days later with the same camera.

The man in the photo is holding today's Stars and Stripes. Photo analysis will reveal the camera date is also 12 days later, 21 Jan 06.

Same Christmas decorations, same flags (Great Britain and Portugal), same air conditioners with little Christmas Trees on top.

Only difference is the red tablecloths have been removed and replaced with white ones, the dessert tables are there now and a certain Senator is no longer present!

The camera is brand new, and its owner still hasn’t gotten around to setting the date and time. In another email, Ben from Ben of Mesopotamia wrote:

To answer your questions, yes, the photos are authentic. Although I did not personally take the pictures, I saw the person who did immediately after they took them and asked for a copy.

The explanation for the date/time stamp falls under the category of Occam's Razor: the person whose camera was used had just arrived in Baghdad, hadn't taken any pictures with it yet, and hadn't set their date/time stamp yet....This, as you noted, also explains the seeming discrepancy between the date/time stamp and the commercial availability of the camera model.

To hopefully put this matter to rest (but given the current state of our political discourse and related conspiracy theories, not likely), I'm attaching two photos taken this morning with the same camera from roughly the same angle....The date/time stamp, for those interested, is exactly twelve days after the original time stamp. Apparently, the owner still hasn't gotten around to setting it.

As to why the Portuguese flag is still flying in the Dining Facility...well, okay, you got me there. My guess is that the contractors who run the DFAC either:

a) Have no idea whose flag it is and whether they are still in country or not;

b) Don't care about the political implications of hanging that flag; or

c) Don't have anything else to fill the empty wall space.

Either way, I will bring it to the manager's attention at lunch today.[/quote]

But this stands out:[quote]
To answer your questions, yes, the photos are authentic[/quote]

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