# Trump 2.0 The Scalps List **URL:** \ **Category:** US Politics\ **Created:** [January 21, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133 "2025-01-21T19:19:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 6:25pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/21 "2025-01-23T18:25:10Z")
> [@Explant](#): > > I find it hard to believe it’s possible a republican would dare to. You don’t think Trump would want to leave his greasy mark on the Constitution? Dude brands hotels and gold courses in his name. I think it is entirely possible he goes for an amendment and soon. It’ll take years to sell to the people tho. He’s got two, then midterms. Again, IMO. WDIK? ---
**Author:** ![Explant](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/explant/32/130551_2.png) [@Explant](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Explant)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/22 "2025-01-23T18:35:12Z")
Think I found it. This is the one, correct? PROTECTING THE MEANING AND VALUE OF AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP [“Explant, post:20, topic:248133, full:true”] By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Purpose. The privilege of United States citizenship is a priceless and profound gift. The Fourteenth Amendment states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” That provision rightly repudiated the Supreme Court of the United States’s shameful decision in Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. (19 How.) 393 (1857), which misinterpreted the Constitution as permanently excluding people of African descent from eligibility for United States citizenship solely based on their race. But the Fourteenth Amendment has never been interpreted to extend citizenship universally to everyone born within the United States. The Fourteenth Amendment has always excluded from birthright citizenship persons who were born in the United States but not “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.” Consistent with this understanding, the Congress has further specified through legislation that “a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” is a national and citizen of the United States at birth, 8 U.S.C. 1401, generally mirroring the Fourteenth Amendment’s text. Among the categories of individuals born in the United States and not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, the privilege of United States citizenship does not automatically extend to persons born in the United States: (1) when that person’s mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth, or (2) when that person’s mother’s presence in the United States at the time of said person’s birth was lawful but temporary (such as, but not limited to, visiting the United States under the auspices of the Visa Waiver Program or visiting on a student, work, or tourist visa) and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth. Sec. 2. Policy. (a) It is the policy of the United States that no department or agency of the United States government shall issue documents recognizing United States citizenship, or accept documents issued by State, local, or other governments or authorities purporting to recognize United States citizenship, to persons: (1) when that person’s mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the person’s father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth, or (2) when that person’s mother’s presence in the United States was lawful but temporary, and the person’s father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth. (b) Subsection (a) of this section shall apply only to persons who are born within the United States after 30 days from the date of this order. (c) Nothing in this order shall be construed to affect the entitlement of other individuals, including children of lawful permanent residents, to obtain documentation of their United States citizenship. Sec. 3. Enforcement. (a) The Secretary of State, the Attorney General, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the Commissioner of Social Security shall take all appropriate measures to ensure that the regulations and policies of their respective departments and agencies are consistent with this order, and that no officers, employees, or agents of their respective departments and agencies act, or forbear from acting, in any manner inconsistent with this order. (b) The heads of all executive departments and agencies shall issue public guidance within 30 days of the date of this order regarding this order’s implementation with respect to their operations and activities. Sec. 4. Definitions. As used in this order: (a) “Mother” means the immediate female biological progenitor. (b) “Father” means the immediate male biological progenitor. Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect: (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or (ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals. (b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations. (c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person. THE WHITE HOUSE, ``` January 20, 2025. ``` [/quote] > **[Protecting The Meaning And Value Of American Citizenship – The White House](https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/)** > > By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. > [@Mr\_PBH](#): > > You don’t think Trump would want to leave his greasy mark on the Constitution? Dude brands hotels and gold courses in his name. I think it is entirely possible he goes for an amendment and soon. It’ll take years to sell to the people tho. He’s got two, then midterms. > > Again, IMO. WDIK? I certainly have opinions about the man based on his own words and actions. But like always, and especially on a matter of the country’s constitution, it’s better to go back to raw data and see what it actually says. Hence why I have no opinion on this matter yet. Want to just make sure this is what so many are concerned about with the birthright citizenship, which it seems to be. Then digest it, compare it, and discuss it. This above order is indeed problematic in many ways. Buts it’s worth pondering and steelmanning before really getting into deeper conversation over. At least on my end because I am still reading, apologies if it takes a day or 2 🙂 Logic over emotion. ---
**Author:** ![CTaitung](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/ctaitung/32/100105_2.png) [@CTaitung](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/CTaitung)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 5:28pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/23 "2025-01-24T17:28:20Z")
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**Author:** ![CTaitung](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/ctaitung/32/100105_2.png) [@CTaitung](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/CTaitung)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/24 "2025-01-24T19:45:01Z")
[https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1882875514618278262?t=X4xsAUvetZ6GFqL6vy\_JTw&s=19](https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1882875514618278262?t=X4xsAUvetZ6GFqL6vy_JTw&s=19) They do love trucks. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/25 "2025-01-24T20:00:51Z")
The problem is that the aid camps on the other side of the border are Mexican only. We’ll see how that works out. 😬 ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 1:01am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/26 "2025-01-27T01:01:41Z")
I’m gonna add this idiot to the scalps list. > **[Florida man arrested for allegedly making ‘violent’ threats against President...](https://nypost.com/2025/01/25/us-news/florida-man-arrested-for-allegedly-making-violent-threats-against-trump/)** > > A Florida man has been arrested for making “violent” threats against President Trump, police said Saturday.   ---
**Author:** ![CTaitung](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/ctaitung/32/100105_2.png) [@CTaitung](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/CTaitung)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 11:09pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/27 "2025-01-27T23:09:56Z")
[https://x.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1883994051864879138?t=B23nvjXVAhpDyCXQ88bIjw&s=19](https://x.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1883994051864879138?t=B23nvjXVAhpDyCXQ88bIjw&s=19) “You’re fired” ---
**Author:** ![CTaitung](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/ctaitung/32/100105_2.png) [@CTaitung](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/CTaitung)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 6:24am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/28 "2025-01-28T06:24:50Z")
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**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/29 "2025-01-28T20:40:35Z")
Fired. ![IMG_5099](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/3/b/3b919e5878844638ae779ca7a9b4e1f60b1856d5.jpeg) Teachers might not want to wish slow death on people. Not exactly teacherly. ---
**Author:** ![CTaitung](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/ctaitung/32/100105_2.png) [@CTaitung](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/CTaitung)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 3:45am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/30 "2025-01-29T03:45:14Z")
![20250128_194408](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/d/7/d7843e2cea3d249377eafdbec9f295f2dd18cbca.jpeg) Undocumented migrants been scalped. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 11:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/31 "2025-01-29T11:47:44Z")
It’s almost a though someone had previous told them something different. ---
**Author:** ![CTaitung](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/ctaitung/32/100105_2.png) [@CTaitung](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/CTaitung)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 5:03pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/32 "2025-01-29T17:03:29Z")
> **[Pentagon pulling Gen. Milley's security detail and clearance 'immediately,'...](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-pulling-gen-milleys-security-detail-clearance-panel-may-face-demotion-retirement)** > > Retired Gen. Mark Milley's personal security detail and security clearance is being pulled by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, multiple senior administration officials tell Fox News. This is a good scalping. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/33 "2025-01-29T17:10:07Z")
> In his new book “War,” Bob Woodward writes Gen. Milley told him at a reception at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on March 6, 2023, that he believed Trump was “fascist to the core!” > . Milley was **still serving in uniform** as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff when he reportedly made the remark. If true, that’s a no no. He should have known better. If true. ---
**Author:** ![CTaitung](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/ctaitung/32/100105_2.png) [@CTaitung](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/CTaitung)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/34 "2025-01-29T20:54:31Z")
😂 > ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/35 "2025-01-29T20:56:11Z")
Yeah, right or wrong, heavy-handed is not a good look. ---
**Author:** ![Poundsand](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@Poundsand](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Poundsand)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/36 "2025-01-29T21:26:18Z")
> [@Mr\_PBH](#): > > Yeah, right or wrong, heavy-handed is not a good look. Yep. Especially when it’s explicitly violating federal law. > **[5 U.S. Code § 403 - Appointments](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/403)** > An [Inspector General](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=5-USC-207302529-1276132410&term_occur=999&term_src=) may be removed from[office](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=5-USC-1935922468-1276132411&term_occur=999&term_src=title:5:part:I:chapter:4:section:403)by the President. If an [Inspector General](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=5-USC-207302529-1276132410&term_occur=999&term_src=) is removed from[office](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=5-USC-1935922468-1276132411&term_occur=999&term_src=title:5:part:I:chapter:4:section:403)or is transferred to another position or location within an[establishment,](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=5-USC-1480760809-1276132407&term_occur=999&term_src=) _ **the President shall communicate in writing the reasons for any such removal or transfer to both Houses of Congress, not later than 30 days before the removal or transfer** _. Nothing in this subsection shall prohibit a personnel action otherwise authorized by law, other than transfer or removal. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/37 "2025-01-29T21:38:44Z")
> [@Poundsand](#): > > Yep. Especially when it’s explicitly violating federal law. > > [5 U.S. Code § 403 - Appointments | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/403) Meh, only the time frame. It’s not as though he doesn’t have the right to fire them, right? By the time any court filing has worked its way through the system, it’ll be a month, so, again-- meh. Is this really an issue? Dudes should plan to gtfo. ---
**Author:** ![Poundsand](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@Poundsand](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Poundsand)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 10:12pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/38 "2025-01-29T22:12:50Z")
> [@Mr\_PBH](#): > > Meh, only the time frame. Meh, he only violated parts of the law! > [@Mr\_PBH](#): > > It’s not as though he doesn’t have the right to fire them, right? He does, subject to certain procedures. Kind of like declassifying stuff, rather than just taking classified docs with him to the bathroom at his club or talking about them to randos to impress them. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 11:47pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/39 "2025-01-29T23:47:48Z")
I imagine, regardless of the legal challenge, these folks are soon to be unemployed or reassigned at the very least. My gut says the former is more likley. ---
**Author:** ![qbert](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/qbert/32/236297_2.png) [@qbert](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/qbert)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 4:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trump-2-0-the-scalps-list/248133/40 "2025-01-30T04:47:26Z")
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