Say what you want about Trump, but facts don’t lie. He’s the only modern U.S. president who didn’t start a single new war during his term.
Meanwhile, Biden couldn’t even make it two years without fueling global chaos, from Afghanistan’s disastrous withdrawal to emboldening conflicts in Eastern Europe.
Trump’s style—whether calling out NATO freeloaders or walking into North Korea like a boss—kept the world in check.
So, why is the media silent about giving Trump the Nobel Peace Prize he deserves? Maybe because he proved you don’t need endless wars to lead.
NATO aren’t freeloaders. It’s a two way street. His understanding about how NATO works is fundamentally wrong.
It is not wrong that many NATO members should be investing more into defence, especially with an increasing belligerent Russia that wants to again annex territory after its second 20th century collapse, but there’s another side that Trump does not realise, is that NATO and the other defence pacts that the US has signed with its allies add an additional buffer to the US in addition to its two oceans on each side which benefits the US already. The US promises to aid those countries while the US benefits from the fact that the wars are far far away from its neigbourhood. Simultaneously, those countries allow US bases and troops to be installed so that they can monitor the US’s adversaries. In many ways, it’s been a scratch my back scratch yours sorta deal. Yes, the US protects them, but those countries offer land for bases so the US can protect its interests.
If those allies are going to pay through the nose, then they might as well kick out the US and leave it to sort its own shit out. The fact of the matter is, the US needs them as much as they need the US. Does the US want a Japan under the Chinese sphere of influence? Does the US want Europe under the Russian sphere of influence? Does the US want all of these opposing adversaries? Or perhaps they don’t fall into their spheres of influence, and they can be like Poland and threatened that if they do not get US security guarantees, to start their own nuclear weapons programmes to deter Russia from subsuming them again.
Does Trump want this? Every country developing nuclear weapons?
These kind of inflammatory statements are not conducive to civil discussion and are in bad faith as well as possibly against site rules against trolling. This starts conversations on the bad foot and tells people like me you’re not actually willing to be open minded despite asking a question. Not everyone who disagrees with Trump is a Trump Bad absolutist, but there are people who are on a spectrum of what they do and do not agree with. You are just turning off people who want to make reasonable statements and simply inviting those who passionately like or hate Trump and turning yet another thread into another flame-war echo chamber hybrid.
Do you actually want a serious reply or do you want to stir shit because the level of inflammatory rhetoric is rather annoying.
If you start your threads with inflammatory rhetoric, don’t be surprised when people lob inflammatory rhetoric back and have no intention of listening to your points. You need to understand that there are perfectly valid criticisms of any debate.
Yes. But the way it was handled was not the way Trump intended.
I believe Trump knows that. However, Germany for example really didn’t bother to spend much despite being a fairly rich country.
Also it is time many of those countries started picking up the slack. The U.S. cannot even afford to have good medical insurance coverage for its own citizens.
2% of gdp of a wealthy country isn’t paying through the nose though.
So, President Trump has expressed this rhetoric since 2016. In the 90s, 2000s, and 10s, the world was relatively more peaceful.
If I am going to let you use my house in Danshui for your interests, the least you can do is contribute. You can contribute monetarily, or you can contribute non monetarily. In fact, someone already uses my house for their interests and they contribute.
The tradeoff is that I might contribute less financially but contribute non-monetarily with my land. That provides a greater tangible and intangible value that could probably never be done with purely financial means.
It is well known the US has interests far beyond its borders and thus leases territory from other countries for the purposes of military bases for the US to monitor its adversaries and protect its interests. If I am going to pay full price for the security system, then I might as well use the goddamn thing exclusively and not worry about relying on the Schizophrenic States of America. Then the US can figure its own shit out. Or they can pay the massively inflated cost it will have to incur to protect its own interests. The point of mutual benefit is that the benefit benefits both parties. IE mutual. So, yeah, other countries might pay a little less because they’re giving away land but we get something that we want in return. You don’t wanna do that? Fine, go, but then you can’t use my house in the strategic location to monitor China and Russia.
I agree that TODAY defence spending should be higher because conditions are different, but not when the rhetoric was first expressed in 2016.
This is most certainly wrong and it’s been a r/shitamericanssay thing for a long time and Republican propaganda.
The US spends more on its healthcare than any other country in the world to get less for its money. Americans would rather spend $8000 on insurance than pay even a dollar to anything called a tax. It is no secret as a population, they particularly hate the T word.
The US can afford a universal system, and it’d save a shit tonne of money doing so. Completely unrelated and the US is not ‘subsidising’ any other country. The US gives and the US gets.
Are you seriously telling me the NATO states of Europe are actually useful military buffers for the US against Russia, a country who can’t even manage to expel Ukranian forces from the Donbas? Or even Kursk…
This is laughable. You can’t honestly believe this.
Such a system wouldn’t be able to innovate and attract the best doctors and medicines in the world. As much as I hate to say it… Americas system is the best (provided you can afford to pay) and its system basically pays for the rest of the world in terms of providing new medical innovations etc…
I’m not seeing it. It seems like a liability from a group of countries more than wealthy enough to afford to defend themselves, especially gainst Russia whose military we can now all see is far more impotent than we were scaremongered into believing.
Much more enjoyable! 