Turkey announces warships to back next aid boat to Israel

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[quote]urkey: Warships will back next flotilla
Turkish PM Erdogan announces Ankara’s ships will escort aid vessels headed to Gaza. Jerusalem: Rhetoric concerning but will not impact Gaza blockade. Meanwhile,
Turkish warships will escort any Turkish aid vessels to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said in an interview with Al-Jazeera television on Thursday.

“Turkish warships, in the first place, are authorized to protect our ships that carry humanitarian aid to Gaza,” Erdogan said in the interview. “From now on, we will not let these ships to be attacked by Israel, as what happened with the Freedom Flotilla.”[/quote]

This scares me. No wonder so many Turkish military officers resigned.
Turkey has 40-50 nukes. Things have the potential to get ugly fast. Is NATO obligated to help either side?

NATO is under no obligation to get involved. However this is my problem with the current Turkish gov. They are playing a dangerous game getting involved.
Israel have every right to inspect shipments. If there is nothing to hide then what is the problem? Also the Turks are hoping for am escalation as there is no way Israel will back down.
I see Turks backing down. They cannot be stupid enough to risk NATO membership as well as that of the EU.

Not much of a risk there: NATO needs 'em, and the EU’s effectively shut the door.
Both sides need to be pressured to settle this thing. If Turkey can drive a wedge in that blockade, good on them.

From experience, I can say that Turkey is clearly just jive talkin’.

Between this and telling Assad where to get off, the Turks’ ‘no trouble with the neighbors’ policy has taken a few knocks.

Maybe you should report this one to the IAEA, because you, my friend, have some explaining to do.

Is there anything else Turkey has that no one else on earth knows about? A Death Star maybe? Sharks with laser beams attached to their heads? :roflmao:


Seems reasonable. The Israeli military did attack the humanitarian convoy last year that resulted in deaths so it’s not surprising that extra protection is being offered this time. Unprovoked attacks on humanitarian aid supply is a big no-no.

cfimages: Of course, because when Hamas is the recipient, we all know it will only be humanitarian aid… :unamused:

Of course, because when Hamas is the recipient, we all know it will only be missiles, explosives, biological weapons, and the precursors to a dirty nuclear bomb.

We already know what was on the last one. The only weapons were makeshift stuff like kitchen knives, pipes and wrenches that people on board were seen creating when it became evident they were about to be attacked. There were no guns, no bombs, no explosives.

You don’t think that once the blockade is broken the second, third or twentieth ship won’t be carrying weapons? Israel is damned if it does, damned if it doesn’t here. Everyone is playing a cynical game. How about Israel starts backing the Kurds and Kurdish independence, as well as Turkish recognition and apologies for the Armenian genocide and we’ll see how Turkey likes that game?

So Israel can ignore the Geneva Conventions because maybe, at some undetermined time in the future, an aid ship might possibly carry weapons, even though the Turkish customs will have already inspected everything prior to departure? Really? :unamused:

Does Israel have any submarines?

Well said Git. Trying to type a message on my phone is a headache. But you are 1000 correct.

The Geneva convention. My god what a joke. The post about the Israelis contravention of the Geneva convention is the biggest rubbish I have heard in a long time.
A typical response from those Neville Chamberlain types.

Do the Palestinians adhere to the geneva Convention?


Why should Israel, in that case? That’s like going head to toe with a bear with a toothache and insisting that he fight by the rules laid down by the Marquess of Queensbury.

“Now look here, old chap. Claws are rather against the spirit of the game, what say you?”

Anyway, I’m curious. What exactly does the Geneva Convention have to say about the right way to blow up a bus of schoolchildren, then?

Probably the same thing it says about the right way to fire missiles and rockets into refugee camps.

So, Gazans don’t randomly fire missiles into Israel all the time? Unless stopped by lack of parts, fuel, or whatever, thanks to a tight Israeli blockade of the gaza city perimeter. And it’s not as if Israel has set itself the sworn mission of the total elimination of all Palestinians. That’s pretty much the demesne of the Hamas hotheads. Fucking extremists. Nor do they randomly shell refugee camps, as you put it.

CFI, you sound like you’re defending the actions of the Hamas and Hesb’allah “freedom fighters”. Easiest way to deal with the situation would be to turn Gaza into glass, but Israel has exercised remarkable restraint given the provocation they receive. Collective punishment isn’t inappropriate when pretty much everyone there deserves it.

Not defending them at all. In other threads I’ve been equally critical of Hamas. I absolutely agree that they are extremists. No argument there.

Israel may not randomly shell refugee camps but they do fire missiles into civilian populations, just like Hamas do. The Hamas militant in a refugee camp to Israel, is the same as an Israeli reservist on a bus to Hamas. Israel hasn’t set itself the sworn mission to eliminate Palestinians but neither have they made a genuine effort to pursue peace. There is a lot of guilt on both sides.

Do keep in mind hamas purposely hide in civilian population for the dual purpose of using their own people as human shields, as well as the propaganda points when a couple get smoked.

Knowing that is all the more reason not to use rockets fired from helicopters.