Typhoons 2019?

I’m calling BS on this one.
They are not obligated to pay you if you are working on an hourly wage. But they are not allowed to force you to use personal leave or deduct from attendance bonuses, or deduct from salared work, etc.

If you aren’t getting paid, then you have a shit boss and I’d look for greener pastures.

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Yeah, I should have mentioned that I’m near that area. We have trees on three sides of us and it appears calm for up to 15 minutes in a stretch though the gusts are intense when they do happen.

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I’m near there too. In fact a second ago torrential rain and heavy wind started up again

Since 3pm yesterday, rain forecasts had already gone over the limit. Rain mostly poured last night. Remember last time we complained about having to go to work in shitty weather? Well, the rain threshold had not been surpassed.

The department stores in Taipei are recalling their employees…and people are not happy. Your fun at others expense.

Please make it home early as the forecast insists on heavy rain/wind later on.

You obviously have not seen my girlfriend’s face :wink:

Private companies don’t have to follow the government announcements. The company is open, if employees choose not to turn up then they either use their personal leave or dock pay.

Drag up an old thread, Salary deduction due to the typhoon holiday?

Old news, don’t know what the result wa, https://taiwantoday.tw/news.php?unit=10,23,45,10&post=15372

More up to date news, http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2018/07/11/2003696482

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From the last article you posted:

Under the Guidelines for Workers’ Attendance Management and Wages (天然災害發生事業單位勞工出勤管理及工資給付要點), workers can choose not to work on official typhoon days and employers are banned from treating it as absence without leave, requiring employees to do compensatory work, deducting their bonuses or carrying out any other form of punishment, the ministry said.

Employers are also advised to not dock employees’ pay if the latter choose not to work on a typhoon day and to offer additional pay when they decide to work, it added.

Granted, it’s not “law”, but rather an advisory or guideline.

I believe it mostly impacts hourly wage workers.


Unfortunately that’s not the case. Most manufacturing operates on this basis, including large multinationals in Taiwan. Not all of course but a significant percentage.

From an employer perspective, your means of generating revenue have been removed due to a Typhoon, if you can reduce your losses by not having to pay employees for work they are not doing they why would you pay them?


Yesterday, I was told to stay home and work from home so it didn’t matter either way for me but I do enjoy the odd “I went for a walk out my door and it looks fine so everybody else should go to work/school” or “think of the businesses losing a few bucks for no other reason other than potentially saving a few lives”.


I don’t think anyone is saying things shouldn’t be closed when it’s necessary, but I think is was clear to most that this wasn’t going to impact Taipei. But this is par for the course here. Next time when it is serious there will be a bunch of pressure not to close.

Anyway, just rode across town. Light rain and wind, no trees down, and the sun was out when we arrived.

It was just a small squall :joy:

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Barely :slight_smile:

From an employee perspective the employee was ready, willing and expected by their employer to be at work. So I would think they should still be compensated. Oh well, doesn’t impact me

That’s what she said

Companies are not required to pay.

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There’s a pretty big loophole in the law then.

It is not a loophole. It was meant to be this way.
In Taiwan laws are made not for the common folks but for the wealthy owners of big companies. :moneybag:


Just a reminder: no one was going to take risks on the 10th anniversary of Morakot. Especially when relevant commemoration ceremonies had to be postponed because of the typhoon.


Why do you think so? I haven’t had a lot of experience, but what I’ve seen is that labor unions are very powerful, employees can make frivolous claims against their employers and get payouts, the labor laws make it very difficult for a business to change course, and the government is very active in pursuing the labor laws.

To the mods, if you decide to move this for being off-topic, could you please move it to one that isn’t temporary?

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