U.S. Soldiers Torturing Animals

As well as being a threat to people how about animals?

They say if you’ll harm animals humans are next.
God knows what else this piece of shit has done.

This piece of cockroach dropping will hopefully be blown up by a roadside bomb.

He throws a puppy off a cliff.

garlinggauge.com/2008/03/03/us-s … g-animals/

And he finds it funny. What a scumbag.

marboulette

big deal…its just a cute animal.

worse crap happens everyday, and your offended by this ?

Please change your headline to read “soldier”, not “soldiers”.

Yes, it’s disgusting behavior, which I am sure his fellow troops have already beaten the shit out of him for. Let’s not tar everyone with the same brush, okay?

He is a Marine…not a ‘soldier’…and that Gunny is having a very bad day today over this stupid sh*t.

And that is one sick f*cking site you linked to. I had to wash my computer after clicking on that link.

[quote=“trebuchet”]Please change your headline to read “soldier”, not “soldiers”.

Yes, it’s disgusting behavior, which I am sure his fellow troops have already beaten the shit out of him for. Let’s not tar everyone with the same brush, okay?[/quote]

No, I believe soldiers is probably more appropriate. Of course many soldiers have extremely high moral standards and this doesn’t refer to them at all. But, and I know I’ll be attacked for this, I believe lots of soldiers are sadistic fuckers. I believe one would probably find a higher level of rapes, murders, domestic violence and other such acts caused by soldiers then by non-soldiers. Not necessarily because more sadistic, screwed up fuckers want to become soldiers than become accountants or teachers, etc. (though there may be some truth to that), but also due to post-traumatic stress as discussed in the below article.

[quote]Late one night in the summer of 2005, Matthew Sepi, a 20-year-old Iraq combat veteran, headed out to a 7-Eleven in the seedy Las Vegas neighborhood where he had settled after leaving the Army. . .

“Matthew knew he shouldn’t be taking his AK-47 to the 7-Eleven,” Detective Laura Andersen said, “but he was scared to death in that neighborhood, he was military trained and, in his mind, he needed the weapon to protect himself.”

. . . . In the end, one gang member lay dead, bleeding onto the pavement. The other was wounded. And Mr. Sepi fled, “breaking contact” with the enemy, as he later described it. With his rifle raised, he crept home, loaded 180 rounds of ammunition into his car and drove until police lights flashed behind him.

“Who did I take fire from?” he asked urgently. Wearing his Army camouflage pants, the diminutive young man said he had been ambushed and then instinctively “engaged the targets.” He shook. He also cried.

“I felt very bad for him,” Detective Andersen said.

Nonetheless, Mr. Sepi was booked, and a local newspaper soon reported: “Iraq veteran arrested in killing.”

Town by town across the country, headlines have been telling similar stories. Lakewood, Wash.: “Family Blames Iraq After Son Kills Wife.” Pierre, S.D.: “Soldier Charged With Murder Testifies About Postwar Stress.” Colorado Springs: “Iraq War Vets Suspected in Two Slayings, Crime Ring.”

Individually, these are stories of local crimes, gut-wrenching postscripts to the war for the military men, their victims and their communities. Taken together, they paint the patchwork picture of a quiet phenomenon, tracing a cross-country trail of death and heartbreak.

The New York Times found 121 cases in which veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan committed a killing in this country, or were charged with one, after their return from war. In many of those cases, combat trauma and the stress of deployment — along with alcohol abuse, family discord and other attendant problems — appear to have set the stage for a tragedy that was part destruction, part self-destruction.

Three-quarters of these veterans were still in the military at the time of the killing. More than half the killings involved guns, and the rest were stabbings, beatings, strangulations and bathtub drownings. Twenty-five offenders faced murder, manslaughter or homicide charges for fatal car crashes resulting from drunken, reckless or suicidal driving.

About a third of the victims were spouses, girlfriends, children or other relatives. . . [/quote]
nytimes.com/2008/01/13/us/13 … ref=slogin

Or just do a google search for soldiers iraq rape murder and you’ll get 1,270,000 terrible stories.

As I said, I’m sure many soldiers are good people with high moral standards, but it shouldn’t be surprising that many of them – who live in such stressful conditions, witnessing terrible brutalities, deprivation and violence on a regular basis – lower their own standards or snap or whatever and commit atrocities on puppies and humans. That’s not cause for hatred, though, so much as empathy and compassion. May they come home soon and get the help they need to recover from the trauma.

I’d rather watch videos like this:

liveleak.com/view?i=002_1177413036

Corrupting the youth with disco dance moves and Kylie. :runaway: Now that’s American!

Here’s a video of the Iraqi’s retaliation to the puppy-throwing incident.

filecabi.net/video/iraqi_kid … ridge.html

And here’s yet another side of that would never make the IP forum, but since this is a thread about troops and animals, why not throw it in?
msnbc.msn.com/id/23295271

Rescued Iraqi dog coming to America
‘Nubs’ finds something to bark about after being saved by Marine

SAN DIEGO - It began with a simple act of kindness to save an abused, injured dog from becoming one more victim in the Iraq war.But what followed for Marine Maj. Brian Dennis and the mutt was a tale of friendship and loyalty that spanned miles and overcame long odds — one set to take a turn Friday with the anticipated arrival here of the Marine’s best friend.

“This dog who had been through a lifetime of fighting, war, abuse … is going to live the good life,” Dennis told his family in an e-mail from Iraq.

His family and close friends helped raise the $3,500 needed to get the dog from Amman, Jordan, to San Diego, said his mother, Marsha Cargo.

Its a beautiful world we live in A sweet romantic place Beautiful people everywhere The way they show they care Makes me want to say Its a beautiful world …

HG

Guess we have nothing to fear from these guys, then…

Those damn troops are stealing all the pets!
defenselink.mil/news/newsart … x?id=26813

A tiger-striped Iraqi kitten that wiggled its way into the hearts of a U.S. Army unit has made its way to the United States, thanks to a host of volunteers and two animal welfare groups.

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Pfc. Hammer, an Iraq-born cat that befriended soldiers of Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 1st Battalion, 8th Infantry Regiment, 4th Infantry Division, during their deployment in Iraq, arrives in San Francisco, Calif., enroute to his new home in Colorado. Courtesy photo
(Click photo for screen-resolution image)
Soldiers with Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 1st Battalion, 8th Infantry Regiment, 4th Infantry Division, dubbed the tiny ball of fur that wandered into their tent early last fall “Pfc. Hammer.”

“He was born at the site,” said Staff Sgt. Rick Bousfield. “There were two other kittens in the litter, but they ran away. He stayed and kept mice out of our living quarters and out of our dining facility.”

Adopted by the troops, the young cat provided warmth and companionship in an otherwise hostile environment. When the unit was attacked by mortar fire, Hammer ran to the bunkers, where the nearest soldier scooped him inside his body armor to wait out the attack.

“He was like our stress therapist over there,” Bousfield recalled. “You’d come in off raids where we’d been kicking in doors and guys would be sitting outside by themselves. He’d come over and take their minds off the war.”

When Bousfield learned the unit was leaving Iraq to return to Fort Carson, Colo., he sent an e-mail asking for help to Alley Cat Allies, a national nonprofit clearinghouse for information on feral and stray cats, in Washington, D.C. The sergeant said he wanted to ensure his whole unit came home together, and that included Pfc. Hammer.

trebuchet, can you please add lots of smiley faces when you post your war machine propaganda, so we will know it’s a smiley article and can read it without fear of encountering scary news? Thanks and god bless. :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”]Its a beautiful world we live in A sweet romantic place Beautiful people everywhere The way they show they care Makes me want to say Its a beautiful world …

HG[/quote]
Where have all the flowers gone?

I don’t know if that’s correct, MT. See the comments below regarding the NYT’s article that you cited:

[quote=“William M. Briggs, Statistician”][url=http://wmbriggs.com/blog/2008/01/15/ralph-peters-gets-his-stats-right-the-new-york-times-purposely-misleads/]The Sunday, 13 January 2008, edition of the Times spent four pages detailing that, in the four and three-quarter years since the Iraq war began, returning soldiers, sailors, and airmen came home horribly scared—mentally, of course—and committed 121 murders. Which is a big number, no question; and probably some, or even most, of the people killed didn’t even have it coming to them.

Military writer Ralph Peters, in today’s column for the New York Post, shows that about 350,000 soldiers have come back from both the Iraqi and Afghanistani wars. That makes the per-year murder rate equal to about 7.3 per 100,000.

Time to seriously fret about the mental health of soldiers? Perhaps we should lock them down for a cooling off period until they loose their aggressiveness.

It was at this point that Peters did what any good statistician would have done: he refused to look at the statistic in isolation. He asked: is 7.3 a lot, or is it a little? How can you find out? It’s easy: by going to the[/url] Bureau of Justice web site [url=http://wmbriggs.com/blog/2008/01/15/ralph-peters-gets-his-stats-right-the-new-york-times-purposely-misleads/]and looking at the murder rates per 100,000 in a demographic most similar to that of GIs, which are 18-24 year-olds:

[b]The civilian murder rate is 26.5 per 100,000

which is more than 3.5 times higher than for GIs![/b] Incidentally, the murder rate for 14-17 year-olds is 9.3; and for those 25-34 it is 13.5, both higher rates than for GIs. It isn’t until you reach the the 35-49 year-olds do you find a lower rate at 5.1 per 100,000.
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I don’t know anything. But, the above appears to call in to question the NYT’s conclusions/reporting.

Oh, whatsa matta? Did you get a warm fuzzy you weren’t expecting? Sorry if I killed the mood. :flowers:

Here, watch this one again:

filecabi.net/video/iraqi_kid … ridge.html

If you wanna hate soldiers, you can tell yourself that the kids learned this behavior from them. Those damn kids, seeking to emulate the US soldiers by throwing animals off of cliffs oh wait, that can’t be it…that kills the mood of believing there is anything a kid would like about coalition soldiers.

If you wanna defend the puppy thrower, you can tell yourself that he was merely exercising desire to be multicultural by observing the credo of “when in Rome, do as the Romans do” -oh wait, that can’t be it, would kill the mood of something, I donno what.
Anyway, I don’t think anyone came here to defend the puppy-thrower, but the orgiastic spirit of masturbatory self-righteous contempt that threads like this tend to degenerate into simply necessitated the need for a warm fuzzy to kill the mood.

:dance: :dance: :yay: :santa: :nyah: :moon:

Hey, That’s amazing! I like mind-altering drugs too!

HG

Give that Marine a break. Maybe he was just trying to tenderize the dog.

When you start thinking of war as something logical, precise and controlled get back to me. I know of several good therapist who can help you with your delusion.

First they torture people.
Then animals.
I suspect plants are next.
Followed by inanimate objects.