Ugly foreigners

What on earth is all this crap? Everyone involved in this story is at fault – its simply a question of degree. So she was held without an interpreter or lawyer. She still has all her teeth.
I’ll tell you for a fact that if she’d hit a cop in Scotland, she’d almost definitely have suffered severe injury as a result of “falling down the stairs” at the cop shop. I strongly suspect the same would be the case in the US or Europe (not Canada though – the cops would be far too busy apologising to get out their tazers or nightsticks).

You don’t offer physical violence to the cops – in any country. You simply don’t, unless you’re a total retard. And over a frigging parking violation yet! She sounds to me like a real piece of work. The cops’ reaction doesn’t surprise me in the least – they’re COPS for chrissakes. :unamused:

The Japanese “justice” system has long had a bad reputation. Read Amnesty International’s “Welcome to Japan?”

web.amnesty.org/library/Index/EN … of=ENG-JPN

Japan’s not alone. Did you read their report on the US? Yikes.

web.amnesty.org/report2003/Usa-summary-eng

[quote=“Mother Theresa”]Japan’s not alone. Did you read their report on the US? Yikes.

web.amnesty.org/report2003/Usa-summary-eng[/quote]

Yikes indeed. You’re comparing the treatment Japanese give to foreign pickpockets, etc with that of the US to terrorists. Do you really see no difference or are you trolling in an attempt to turn this into yet another American-bashing thread? :unamused:

Perhaps you missed the side-column and the sections below. They have a greater variety of U.S. misdemeanors. I reproduce some bits below. I’m not really into ‘America-bashing’ in general though. I have friends from a variety of places in America; North (Canada, the USA, Mexico); Central (Costa Rica); and South (Brazil, Colombia, Argentina). Most of my friends agree, however, that politicians everywhere have similar goals and use similar methods to achieve them. Lots may start out meaning well, but the power and jealousy gets to them in the end.

By the way, it will not be a useful response to say;
“But things are so much worse in Colombia…”. Of course they are. What’s surprising, though, is that none of our so-called developed countries can do better.

"Gordon Randall Jones, an unarmed man, died in July after he was struck 12 times with an M26 Taser by police in Orange County, Florida. The autopsy report listed the cause of death as “positional asphyxia, secondary to the application of restraints in the setting of acute cocaine intoxication”.
Chiquita Hammonds, a 15-year-old schoolgirl, was pepper-sprayed and struck with a Taser by police in Miramar, Florida, following a minor disturbance on a school bus. AI believes the use of chemical and electro-shock devices in this case constituted cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment.
There were calls for a civil rights investigation into an incident in November in which two 16-year-old Latino boys died after a Los Angeles police officer shot at their car, hitting them with bullets and causing the car to crash. Two other juveniles and a 20-year-old in the car were also injured. The police

debito.org/TheCommunity/xene … 01202.html

Beware of Bad Foreigners!

Imagine opening the newspaper and reading this headline: Crimes by Japanese Abroad Skyrocket: Murder, Robbery, Theft Up 50%. If you are Japanese, your first reaction may be anger: We Japanese are no criminals! Second may be disbelief: Where did they get these numbers?

Don’t worry. Even though the numbers are straight from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for the years 1995 to 2000, you will never see this headline in Japan. This is because it would be irresponsible to report on the number of crimes by Japanese abroad without looking at changes in the number of Japanese people abroad. It would also be irresponsible to include murder, without noting that murders, taken separately, rose but then returned to their previous level. It would be irresponsible not to mention that figures had actually fallen by fifteen percent from 1999 to 2000, the most recent year.

And it would be downright negligent to draw broad conclusions from the meager 276 crimes that make up the data. Sadly, in reporting crimes by foreigners, the Japanese media commit all of the above kinds of mistakes. No wonder, then, that foreigners in Japan are perceived as dangerous - even though Japanese have a higher crime rate. No, that’s not a misprint: The crime rate is higher for Japanese.

Far higher, according to Ryogo Mabuchi, an associate professor of sociology at Nara University. Mr. Mabuchi says the crime rate among Japanese is roughly double that among non-permanent foreign residents including U.S. military personnel. For the number of heinous crimes, the rates for Japanese and foreigners are roughly equal, although for the number of violent criminals, the rate for Japanese is about five times that for foreigners.

Mr. Mabuchi says his students are surprised to hear such figures, which fly in the face of common perceptions. He blames this perception gap on the media, although he also believes the National Police Agency could do a better job of framing their statistics.

“I don’t think the police are prejudiced against foreigners,” he says. “I think the police are reporting accurately on the frequency of crime occurrence. However, their crime statistics do not compare the ratio of non-Japanese criminals residing in Japan - that is, the number of arrested per 100,000 of such residents - with that of Japanese criminals. So these statistics don’t accurately show the relative danger of foreigners and Japanese.” He thinks the media should provide more balance rather than simply reporting the statistics announced by the police. “They should report in a way that avoids the appearance of anti-foreign bias.”

Mr. Mabuchi’s research has shown that crimes by foreigners are greatly over-represented in the press. He compared the number of people arrested for Penal Code violations (robbery, theft, extortion, murder and the like) with the number of people appearing in 2,579 articles on arrests published in the Asahi Shimbun for the first half of 1998. He found that fewer than 2 in 100 arrested Japanese made the crime pages, versus more than 7 in 100 arrested non-Japanese. In fact, an arrested foreigner was almost five times more likely than an arrested Japanese to be written up.

This is particularly alarming given the Asahi’s reputation for being more racially sophisticated than most Japanese newspapers. But perhaps it is not surprising, when one examines journalistic ethics in Japan.

LOOSE CANON

In most countries, even those not known as paragons of human rights, the media have established sensible ethical guidelines on race. Here’s a typical example from The Daily Press of Hampton Roads, Virginia (U.S.A.): “Identify a person or group by race only when such identification is relevant or is an essential element of the story; introduce race to a story only when it is an issue of relevance to the story.” In Japan, such guidelines are conspicuously absent. The Canon of Journalism of The Japan Newspaper Publishers & Editors Association never once mentions race.

Some North American and European journalists believe that racial sensitivity in Western media has gone too far, mutating into an unhealthy hypersensitivity. William McGowan made this indictment in Coloring the News (Encounter Books, 2001). As one example of hypersensitivity, he cited the case of a serial rapist in New York whose police description included his race. The New York Times omitted printing the race of the minority perpetrator, even though he was still at large and the description could have led to his arrest. Mr. McGowan argued that racial details are sometimes very relevant: When a dangerous criminal has not been apprehended, public safety trumps any concern for bruised racial feelings, and a full description should be given.

The following stories from the Japanese media, however, fail to meet sensible standards.

You might not be into America-bashing, but Amnesia International sure is. Most of the nonsense they spew is of the “oooh, the evil jack-booted cops reacted too strongly after the innocent helpless youth kicked an officer in the crotch” variety (IIRC, that one was in San Diego about 18 months ago). Well, if the kid didn’t want his ass kicked, he shouldn’t have kneed the cop in the balls. Turnabout is fair play, even when the “suspect” is handcuffed.

Their main schtick seems to be death-penalty opposition. Well, with all the “tainted evidence” and “languishing on death row” dribble, as far as I’ve ever heard they have never yet managed to posthumously exonerate even one dead criminal. It’s all just posturing to try to end the death penalty.

OK, so she behaved like a lunatic, we can probably agree about that.
Is it still OK to lock her up for one week? -Not to mention 2 weeks for that other guy?

How likely is it that similar things will/have happen(ed) here in “racist”, “foreign-hating” Taiwan?

Maybe Taiwan ain’t that bad after all for us foreigners?

Hell no. She struck a police officer. She should get a medal and a pension. If she’d done it in Seattle, they would have given these items and much more to her, plus the large financial reward for mental anguish that her inevitable civil suit would win from a sympathetic jury.

The ticket-selling guy, though, does sound like he was a real victim of discrimination. I wish they’d just done the article on him. Probably the reporter thought the cop-slapping chick was too cute to pass up.

[b]Okay folks, just finished moving 1/3 of this thread to the flame forum. Let’s stay on topic this time and not bash each other!

Thanks![/b] :sunglasses: