Ukraine Invaded by the Russians - April 2022

Ok a good video I enjoyed it. We have the same thing in the UK
It is called “The Junior Army”

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No, just defend your own country. If your boots are on foreign soil and you’re dropping bombs on the people who live there you’re one of the bad guys if they didn’t attack you first.

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You have a point. Still he didnt hide behind others and worked in public service all his life even when he was very ill.

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Zelensky will be in Moscow by Xmas. After that he will completely capture Siberia with a great final battle near Vladivostok. After that he will march on Beijing at the head of his victorious army. Once Xi has been thrown out on the street Zelensky will conquer and recolonise India as an afterthought. It’s true I heard it that what I was told.

Had no interest in the parade. Oligarchs are not respected in Russia (according to people I know from that part of the world). Don’t know much about the ‘Military Industrial Machine’ in Russia, except it has nothing on the Western version.

Butthurt abounds in Russia right now.
Go eurovision winners!

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Or to set up an office for a local “non-profit” to “help” and then funnel off some of the very money they voted to send over.

Finland’s formally declared its intention to join NATO.

Putin really has royally fucked up. Is he worse than Yeltsin? At least he could blame it on the booze.

Anyone for a spreadbet for total Russian military collapse in Ukraine? I’m thinking August.

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Ok I shouldn’t be flippant in this serious thread but that was LMFAO
I remember Terry Wogan hosting that when Bucks Fizz won.

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Never bet against Russia in a war of attrition , they have been militarily wrecked many a time then finally make a late come back.
In Stalingrad they purposely lost their own city let the Germans take it and then bombed their own city to shite. Just sayin!

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This Ukrainian with a bit of a ‘Hitler flick’ hair style going on, says a million have weapons, and when they defeat Russia, they will come after the corrupt Ukrainians. I think they would have had more success going after the corrupt Ukrainian officials first.

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It’s over. Putin has lost. How Russia allows him to lose is now the question.

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Yeah , what’s with the Hitler hair styles in Ukraine. :rofl:

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Nah, disagree.

Great interview with Jacques Baud. The most detailed and informed overview of the conflict that I have heard.

Jacques Baud is a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. As a UN expert on rule of law and security institutions, he designed and led the first multidimensional UN intelligence unit in the Sudan. He has worked for the African Union and was for 5 years responsible for the fight, at NATO, against the proliferation of small arms. He was involved in discussions with the highest Russian military and intelligence officials just after the fall of the USSR. Within NATO, he followed the 2014 Ukrainian crisis and later participated in programs to assist the Ukraine. He is the author of several books on intelligence, war and terrorism.

Russia generally only wins through attrition on home soil.

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Yes , that is true. Ok let’s then first decide what you define as defeat? I would say losing Crimea back to Ukraine would certainly be defeat or do you consider the Crimea , as Russian, Ukrainian or independent ?

You’re changing your position from Russian victory to what constitutes Russian defeat?

I’ll have to think about that because the current Russian military situation is defeat in my eyes, compared to what Putin was aiming for.

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Well what in your opinion was he aiming for ?