# Ukraine Invaded by the Russians - April to August 2022

**URL:** <https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983>\
**Category:** International Politics\
**Tags:** ukraine\
**Created:** [March 31, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983 "2022-03-31T16:27:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![scommy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/scommy/32/269713_2.png) [@scommy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/scommy)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/581 "2022-04-10T14:39:20Z")

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Same old drivel.

Just admit it.

Iraqis, Yemenis, Afghans, Libyans, Vietnames, none of them really matter to YOU.

And yet suddenly all this concern over a few Nazis getting killed.

Hypocrisy at its most extreme.

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**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/582 "2022-04-10T14:39:45Z")

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> Now Russia goes to kill a few Nazis  
> @scommy

Your words. Your lies.

Back them up.

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**Author:** ![DrewC](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/drewc/32/224499_2.png) [@DrewC](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DrewC)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/583 "2022-04-10T14:42:35Z")

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> [@scommy](#):
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> **Vietnames** , none of them really matter to YOU.

I dunno… I bet he cares enough to spell it correctly.

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**Author:** ![scommy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/scommy/32/269713_2.png) [@scommy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/scommy)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 2:44pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/584 "2022-04-10T14:44:35Z")

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😀 😄Grammar and spelling nazi detected. lol

This will cheer you up.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/5hq-eWd7IO0/hqdefault.jpg "IMG 0217") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hq-eWd7IO0)

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**Author:** ![DrewC](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/drewc/32/224499_2.png) [@DrewC](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DrewC)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/585 "2022-04-10T14:47:38Z")

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> [@scommy](#):
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> Grammar and spelling nazi detected. lol

Is that the same as a “Ukronazi”? Should you get your pal Putin to eliminate me?

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**Author:** ![scommy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/scommy/32/269713_2.png) [@scommy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/scommy)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/586 "2022-04-10T14:50:47Z")

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yawn …  
and still nobody wants to discuss millions murdered in Iraq or Yemen etc.  
So predictable.

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**Author:** ![DrewC](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/drewc/32/224499_2.png) [@DrewC](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DrewC)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/587 "2022-04-10T14:51:46Z")

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> [@scommy](#):
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> and still nobody wants to discuss millions murdered in Iraq or Yemen etc.  
> So predictable.

If you really cared, you’d start a thread about it. Or go over to Iraq and/or Yemen to volunteer your invaluable services. You call others hypocrites, when the hypocrisy, and strawman arguments, is totally on your side.

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**Author:** ![scommy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/scommy/32/269713_2.png) [@scommy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/scommy)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/588 "2022-04-10T14:56:25Z")

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Yes Iraq I would consider - not sure they wanna learn English. Meanwhile you can go join your heroes in Azov…oops thats if there are any of them left by the time you get there.😉

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**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/589 "2022-04-10T14:56:42Z")

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Check the title of this thread or move on.

Your choice.

Nobody wants to listen to your incoherent off topic ranting…This thread isn’t here for you to dump all your random crap into.

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**Author:** ![DrewC](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/drewc/32/224499_2.png) [@DrewC](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DrewC)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/590 "2022-04-10T14:58:54Z")

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> [@scommy](#):
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> Yes Iraq I would consider

No, you wouldn’t. Don’t lie. Fwiw, I’ve always been against the Iraq war and had debates with people on the wrong side of history about that fiasco back in 2003 before it even started… it’s almost 20 years later, and the war may be different, but I’m still arguing with people on the wrong side of history.

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**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/591 "2022-04-10T15:01:55Z")

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Good news story.  
The thing that winds them up the most.

> **[Escape from Mariupol: the man who swam to safety from Russian terror](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/07/ukraine-escape-from-mariupol-man-swam-eussian-terror)**
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> Exclusive: Witness to bombing of theatre fled by swimming along shoreline to reach Ukrainian-controlled territory

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**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/592 "2022-04-10T15:02:30Z")

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Excellent news.

> **[Boris Johnson pledges to send more arms during surprise visit to Kyiv](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/09/boris-johnson-pledges-to-send-more-arms-during-surprise-visit-to-kyiv)**
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> UK to send military vehicles and missiles as prime minister hails Zelenskiy’s heroism

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Jack](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/charlie_jack/32/246096_2.png) [@Charlie\_Jack](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Charlie_Jack)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/593 "2022-04-10T15:26:08Z")

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In this thread I’ve seen a couple of videos that appear to have originated with Ramzan Kadyrov (Kadyrov\_95; I think the username RKadyrov\_95 may also appear on the Internet). I can’t analyze them on my own hook, because I’m no expert on these kinds of things.

I saw a little bit of commentary about Kadyrov and his videos on PTT (the text is in Chinese, so there may be a need to use Google Translate, or something like it, if there’s some other method):

[Re: [情報] 車臣人的每日郊遊 - 看板Military - PTT網頁版](https://www.pttweb.cc/bbs/Military/M.1648720621.A.024)

I can’t vouch for the accuracy of the contents of the PTT page linked above; I’m just adding my two cents to the mix of the thread.

Wikipedia:

> **[Ramzan Kadyrov](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramzan_Kadyrov)**
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> Ramzan Akhmadovich Kadyrov (Russian: Рамзан Ахматович Кадыров; Chechen: Къадар Ахьмат-кӏант Рамзан, romanized: Q̇adar Aẋmat-khant Ramzan, \[qʼɑːdɑːr ɑːʜmɑːt k’ɑːnt rɑːmzɑːn\]; born 5 October 1976) is a Russian and Chechen politician currently serving as the Head of the Chechen Republic. He was formerly a member of the Chechen independence movement and is a lieutenant general in the Russian military.
> He is the son of former Chechen President Akhmad Kadyrov who switched sides in the Second Cheche...

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**Author:** ![KINGKONGDONK](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/kingkongdonk/32/200302_2.png) [@KINGKONGDONK](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/KINGKONGDONK)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/594 "2022-04-10T16:48:09Z")

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looks like they got the town alcoholic to pretend to be azov

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**Author:** ![QuaSaShao](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/quasashao/32/220200_2.png) [@QuaSaShao](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/QuaSaShao)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/595 "2022-04-10T22:33:32Z")

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> [@DrewC](#):
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> Fwiw, I’ve always been against the Iraq war . . .

Do you consider the invasion of Iraq a war crime?

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**Author:** ![crusher](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/crusher/32/235005_2.png) [@crusher](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/crusher)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/596 "2022-04-10T22:41:53Z")

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> [@Brianjones](#):
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> Check the title of this thread or move on.
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> Your choice.
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> Nobody wants to listen to your incoherent off topic ranting…This thread isn’t here for you to dump all your random crap into.

The thread is here for everyone not just people who agree with each other.

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**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 10:45pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/597 "2022-04-10T22:45:06Z")

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The thread is here to **talk about the invasion if Ukraine.**

His stuff is off topic rambling ‘you are all sheep Urdy urr urr’ nonsense.

Let’s not waste time asking me to quote the off topic garbage.

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**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/598 "2022-04-10T22:48:27Z")

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> [@scommy](#):
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> and still nobody wants to discuss millions murdered in Iraq or Yemen etc

You make your own thread to ramble to your self in there.

You can accuse yourself of being a sheep and hit reply and have a jolly old time getting the attention you desire.

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**Author:** ![DrewC](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/drewc/32/224499_2.png) [@DrewC](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DrewC)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 11:52pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/599 "2022-04-10T23:52:58Z")

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> [@QuaSaShao](#):
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> Do you consider the invasion of Iraq a war crime?

An illegal invasion? Yeah. And there certainly were war crimes committed during it. Too many to go list.

Repeatedly bringing up the Iraq war is such a weird strain of whataboutism, especially when people have already said they’re against it. It’s almost as if some in this thread are unwilling to defend their POV when backed in a corner about what they’re saying regarding Putin’s war (not you, but those in general who keep bringing up Iraq). It’d be like if I was talking about how terrible Jeffrey Dahmer was as a serial killer, and people kept bringing up Ted Bundy out of nowhere asking if I had condemned him too.

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**Author:** ![crusher](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/crusher/32/235005_2.png) [@crusher](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/crusher)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 12:15am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-april-to-august-2022/218983/600 "2022-04-11T00:15:13Z")

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> [@Ukraine invaded by the Russians...again Dec-Feb 2022](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-again-dec-feb-2022/214479/7298):
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> > [@QuaSaShao](#):
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> > Do you consider the invasion of Iraq a war crime?
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> An illegal invasion? Yeah. And there certainly were war crimes committed during it. Too many to go list.
> 
> Repeatedly bringing up the Iraq war is such a weird strain of whataboutism, especially when people have already said they’re against it. It’s almost as if some in this thread are unwilling to defend their POV when backed in a corner about what they’re saying regarding Putin’s war (not you, but those in general who keep bringing up Iraq). It’d be like if I was talking about how terrible Jeffrey Dahmer was as a serial killer, and people kept bringing up Ted Bundy out of nowhere asking if I had condemned him too.

Not totally correct. If Bundy and Dahmer were convicted in the same state and one got the death penalty and one did not then it would be worth a discussion.  
A better analogy is more like neighbors shooting at each other over where the boundaries of where the garden wall should be. Then one neighbor asking for help from the others , so the others all refuse to talk to the one who fired first , but do not actively get involved other than supplying bullets and guns to the neighbor who was shot at.

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