# Ukraine Invaded by the Russians - March 2022

**URL:** <https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982>\
**Category:** International Politics\
**Tags:** ukraine\
**Created:** [February 28, 2022, 4:17pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982 "2022-02-28T16:17:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![crusher](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/crusher/32/235005_2.png) [@crusher](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/crusher)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:03am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/41 "2022-03-01T01:03:03Z")

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> [@mad\_masala](#):
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> I think the news we receive are overly enthusiastic about the Ukrainian achievements and not too realistic in general. Unfortunately.

Very true unfortunately.

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**Author:** ![riggers](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/f4b2a3/32.png) [@riggers](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/riggers)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:03am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/42 "2022-03-01T01:03:32Z")

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I can’t see the UK fighting here.

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**Author:** ![The\_Ghost](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@The\_Ghost](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/The_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:03am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/43 "2022-03-01T01:03:39Z")

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Nah, there is a lot … A LOT … of damage been done to the Russians that the mainstream media isn’t even reporting.

This channel is pretty unbiased – shows Ukraine losses and Russian losses and the number of vehicles Russia is losing is astounding. Not just destroyed, but abandoned by the side of the road.

> **[Suchomimus](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXZs3e_VSlYgrUuTqm3GgVA/videos)**
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> Second account: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz6GazpS3CPx--nFhKbKvpQ

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**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/44 "2022-03-01T01:04:39Z")

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The UK supplied anti tank weapons seem to have come in handy.

Guy

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**Author:** ![TT](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tt/32/271883_2.png) [@TT](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/TT)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/45 "2022-03-01T01:04:50Z")

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> [@mad\_masala](#):
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> I think the news we receive are overly enthusiastic about the Ukrainian achievements and not too realistic in general. Unfortunately.

Depends on your sources, there are posts above that suggest Putin has already succeeded in his totally justified excursion to free the Ukrainian people and safeguard the world from NATO aggression.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/46 "2022-03-01T01:07:12Z")

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Business has a vote in foreign policy and geopolitical reality it seems.

Anyway,

Harley-Davidson, GM Halt Shipments to Russia (1:40 a.m.)

Harley-Davidson, Inc. and General Motors Co. say they’ll halt shipments to Russia, a sign economic sanctions against the country are having an impact.

Harley suspended its business in Russia, according to a statement from the Milwaukee, Wisconsin-based motorcycle manufacturer. Harley relied on Europe and the Middle East for 31% of sales last year. It doesn’t break out sales to Russia.

GM cited “a number of external factors, including supply chain issues and other matters beyond the company’s control.”

“Our thoughts are with the people of Ukraine at this time,” the automaker said Monday in an emailed statement. Earlier Monday, Boeing Co. closed its office in Kyiv, and “paused” operations at its Moscow training campus, a spokeswoman for the Chicago-based planemaker said in an email.

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**Author:** ![mad\_masala](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mad_masala/32/182103_2.png) [@mad\_masala](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/mad_masala)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:09am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/47 "2022-03-01T01:09:21Z")

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Yeah, I agree that the morale of the invaders can’t be very high. As I mentioned the other day, the temperatures are low, and that and the war itself is wearing. People are saying that some of these soldiers are young, inexperienced and/or drunk, and that they were lied about what they would be doing there (just military exercises) and how they would be received (a warm welcome from the liberated Ukrainians). I’m not sure how much truth there’s in that, but maybe some.

I really hope a miserable defeat for them, costly in terms of money and soldiers, and that this leads to all sort of pressure in Russian ending up in someone taking down Putin. But I guess that’s not the most likely scenario. Maybe still possible though.

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**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:10am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/48 "2022-03-01T01:10:56Z")

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> [@Ukraine invaded by the Russians...again Dec-Feb 2022](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-again-dec-feb-2022/214479/1847):
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> Have been wondering about the morale of the Russian soldiers from the beginning.

Ukrainian soldiers have release many videos where captured Russian soldiers claim they weren’t told that they were going to invade, they were simply told this is another exercise and got into the vehicles only to found out after they’ve crossed the border.

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**Author:** ![mad\_masala](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mad_masala/32/182103_2.png) [@mad\_masala](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/mad_masala)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/49 "2022-03-01T01:11:48Z")

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It’s incredible how many idiots in are Europe writing comments on how evil NATO is and how this is USA’s fault and that there’s a lot of hate against Russia. All salt peppered with Afghanistan this Iraq that. Right. Even demonstrations against the war and NATO. It’s tiring and depressing.

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**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/50 "2022-03-01T01:12:38Z")

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> [@mad\_masala](#):
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> idiots

As @TT would say, those are useful idiots.

Guy

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**Author:** ![The\_Ghost](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@The\_Ghost](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/The_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:14am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/51 "2022-03-01T01:14:32Z")

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> [@mad\_masala](#):
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> It’s incredible how many idiots in are Europe writing comments on how evil is NATO and how this is USA’s fault and that there’s a lot of hate against Russia.

How many of these are actually Russian trolls and bots?

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**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:15am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/52 "2022-03-01T01:15:03Z")

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We have at least one MEP from Ireland who fits this exact description. He has also supported China against Taiwan previously. I think he’s taking money personally because nobody can be that stupid. MEPs like him get elected on the ‘anti everything platform’.

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**Author:** ![mad\_masala](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mad_masala/32/182103_2.png) [@mad\_masala](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/mad_masala)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:17am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/53 "2022-03-01T01:17:45Z")

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> [@The\_Ghost](#):
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> How many of these are actually Russian trolls and bots?

IDK. The ones I’m paying attention to are regulars in some reddit-like site.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/54 "2022-03-01T01:18:53Z")

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> [@hansioux](#):
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> only to found out after they’ve crossed the _boarder_

Ouch!

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**Author:** ![mad\_masala](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mad_masala/32/182103_2.png) [@mad\_masala](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/mad_masala)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:21am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/55 "2022-03-01T01:21:40Z")

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> [@Brianjones](#):
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> He has also supported China against Taiwan previously.

I’ve seen this behaviour too. Basically same people who would support Russia now. I’m convinced this is out of hate towards the USA (I don’t like them either) and a knee jerk reaction acquired during the times it was the USSR vs the Evil Capitalism.

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**Author:** ![Whatevah](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Whatevah](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Whatevah)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:22am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/56 "2022-03-01T01:22:06Z")

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> [@OysterOmelet](#):
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> Also, Ukraine isn’t exactly a liberal democracy; they have coups and even Zelensky jails journalists.

Exactly. People forget the west lovers are a minority in Ukraine they became the majority only after the separation of Crimea and Donbas.

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**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:22am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/57 "2022-03-01T01:22:10Z")

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Like the CCP, Putin’s words are worthless. Putin can only be judged by his actions, and his actions. Putin can claim that he has no intentions to invade, or wants to return the entire region of Ukraine back into Russia, or that he wants to have peace talks, but his actions is saying different. Anyone familiar with how the CCP operates would recognize what Putin is trying to pull. The talks are just a ruse.

I still think Putin’s true intention is to split Ukraine along the Dnieper. No real meaningful talks would happen before Russian troops occupied most of the territory East of the Dnieper. The only way Putin truly loses is to prevent him from ever achieving that goal. If “peace” is reached by signing away those territories to Russia, it’s not a defeat for Putin.

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**Author:** ![TT](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tt/32/271883_2.png) [@TT](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/TT)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/58 "2022-03-01T01:34:23Z")

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> [@hansioux](#):
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> The talks are just a ruse.

I think it is possible he is ready for talks, either because he only wanted the half country as you suggest, or possibly because it is going so poorly for him. Or both.

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**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/59 "2022-03-01T01:36:45Z")

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> [@TT](#):
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> I think it is possible [Putin] is ready for talks,

A nice chance to share tea with Mr Zalensky to enjoy the nice scenery of Belarus!

Guy

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**Author:** ![chilifries](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/chilifries/32/182980_2.png) [@chilifries](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/chilifries)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/ukraine-invaded-by-the-russians-march-2022/218982/60 "2022-03-01T01:37:02Z")

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DIY warfare. Awesome 👍

 ![FMrEIF5XwAYuWII](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/9/9/993c3690c55ee0c49e4ede7b21e80022a62f43f2.jpeg)

> **[As it happened: Ukraine live updates: Deadly blast at Kyiv TV tower after...](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60542877?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=621ca17fec502b53cd4801be&Ukraine%20pinpoints%20enemy%20tanks%27%20weak%20points&2022-02-28T23:06:59.548Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:549fe854-33e7-4924-a4cb-fd43aab3a6a0&pinned_post_asset_id=621ca17fec502b53cd4801be&pinned_post_type=share)**
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> Ukraine says Russia has attacked the main television tower in the capital, killing five people.

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