[quote=“TainanCowboy”]LOL…one of the many reasons “people” express such a dis-like for US politics is the repeating of lies, half-truths and misleading information as fact by the various news medias and then parroting of this by toadies on the internet.
This incessant repetition of mis-information accomplishes a great deal for the anti-US wack-jobs and plays right into the hand of the media-wise manipulators of the current terrorist forces.
It looks like an interesting book. I don’t really think enough has been revealed of it here to form much of an accurate opinion. Perhaps I will find it in the future and read it.[/quote]
I agree entirely. I have to say I’m a bit perplexed though. Is this new in-your-face candor some sort of last ditch tactic to regain some shred of credibility?
Well, if Americans, American publications, and American leaders are proclaiming that many people don’t like America, it’s safe to say that indeed there is a problem.
America is disliked. Why? Work that out, and you’ll be back where you were a decade or so ago. Right now something is going horrendously wrong, and whether America is wrong or not, the fact that the country is disliked means that perhaps America needs to look at what it has done to make that happen.
You can blame others and be a victim all your life or you can accept responsibility and take control.
They should chisel that in stone over the EU headquarters.
I would think that a majority of Americans couldn’t care less that foreigners don’t like their country or their president. They see things like Europeans demanding a 35 hour work week and fantastic benefits and think all sorts of things about them. However, I doubt there is any hate, or strong dislike involved.
I mean seriously, how much MORE control do you want the US to have over the world??
[quote=“jdsmith”]I think France hates the US because of EuroDisney. We knew it would be a flop on a huge scale, but we built it right there in their backyard anyway…because we could.
bwaahahahahaha[/quote]
jdsmith, it is exactly with those sort of statements that we dislike america. You are the ruler of the world, fine I dont mind but do it in a more intelligent way.
It is not as simple as that. If Eurodisney chose near Paris, it was because the french government offered them a lot of advantage (space, land to buy at a very cheap price, investments in very convenient public transport etc etc)
I remember as a kid having a great admiration for America. What has changed, I can t really point a finger at it. It was a country of dreams come true, it was the country that came to free us, the country of men on the moon.
Now america hardly makes anyone dream anymore.
Irak,as said earlier, only comforted people in their feeling that after all europeans might be right to distrust, hence leading , to dislike america
So it’s the media’s fault once again, eh? It was them that told us the Iraq has WMD and is threating the US and the rest of the world, they photoshopped the banner “Mission Accomplished” into the picture and misquoted Bush when he announced ‘We found them’ and that they would find more (WMD that is). And of course that Iraq is in a state of civil war is just another lie, or ‘misleading information’ at best.
And if the right-wing whack-jobs had to say we would all believe that everything is going well in Iraq, that in fact Iraqis are singing and dancing in the streets all day long, showering the US soldiers with hugs and flowers.
The US tried to spread their lies and misinformation, or using a less offensive word, propaganda a few times but were caught red-handed by the media on quite a few occassions. But I guess that they were caught doesn’t matter, just the fact that the media exposed it.
I guess even then you would just be quoting from it.
It’s not that it changed, it’s just that as a kid you probably did not realize how America really “works”. Once you grow up you learn more and perhaps take more interest it’s foreign policy, and then you realize not all is a rosy as you might have thought.
If there is one reason to dislike America it’s for their constant “Anti-American” whining; I guess they need something to distract from the fact of another lost war which really seems to hurt the American ego, and whom better to point the finger at than Europeans?
Not all Americans are whining neo-McCarthyites who revile other countries because they won’t do what they’re told. Only about 35% of Americans fall into that category. Unfortunately their man is in the Whitehouse at the moment so it just seems as though that’s the American character.
The fact is that a majority of Americans still believe in the traditional values which made our country an honorable, responsible leader among nations – respect for the truth, respect for the rule of law and human rights not only in word but in deed.
There have been powerful individuals and their minions in various U.S. administrations who have strayed from these ideals but the majority of Americans are shamed by their actions.
These extremists on the left and right of American political life have periodically swayed the entire nation off course for a time, particularly in times of national trauma, but the great majority of Americans have always managed to wrest control back from them and put the nation on its true path again.
May God help us accomplish that righteous task yet again, one more time.
[quote=“SHARLEE”][quote=“jdsmith”]I think France hates the US because of EuroDisney. We knew it would be a flop on a huge scale, but we built it right there in their backyard anyway…because we could.
bwaahahahahaha[/quote]
jdsmith, it is exactly with those sort of statements that we dislike america. You are the ruler of the world, fine I dont mind but do it in a more intelligent way.
It is not as simple as that. If Eurodisney chose near Paris, it was because the french government offered them a lot of advantage (space, land to buy at a very cheap price, investments in very convenient public transport etc etc)
I remember as a kid having a great admiration for America. What has changed, I can t really point a finger at it. It was a country of dreams come true, it was the country that came to free us, the country of men on the moon.
Now america hardly makes anyone dream anymore.
Irak,as said earlier, only comforted people in their feeling that after all europeans might be right to distrust, hence leading , to dislike america[/quote]
I guess not having a sense of humor helps the hate too.
America not the land of dreams? Really? Tell that to all the new billionaires.
And I am sorry that you don’t feel good about America as you did when you were young. Perhaps one of these days, we can come save you again and that will restore your admiration for us.
That is patently false as the conclusions of both the Duelfer and Butler reports proved.
Me thinks that it is strange that the first ever democratically elected government of that nation wants America to stay but so many uninvolved nations want us to leave. Why do you suppose that is?
Prove that there was a lie. Might want to read the Duelfer and Butler reports. They both concluded the exact opposite.
Back to you and don’t let the facts stop you from engaging in a good vent.[/quote]
Percent of Americans who believed in 2006 that the Bush administration “Purposely misled the public about evidence that Iraq had banned weapons in order to build support for war.”: 58%
Doesn’t matter what the American people believed… weren’t you the one who kept showing what percentage believed that Saddam was responsible for 911? What did the Butler and Duelfer reports conclude? I know why none of you Bush detractors want to discuss this. Does everyone else? The facts that underlie those reports do not support your charges. Case closed.
I doubt that the American majority who now believe they were lied to are the same ones who continue to believe along with their vice-president that Iraq was somehow tied to 9/11 so I’ll have to cite you for another in a long line of sophistries there. You can confirm that with Tainan Cowboy.
As long as some Americans continue to publicly perpetuate these goofy sophistries about what the hell actually happened other Americans will be duty bound to point out that not all Americans – if fact, not even a majority – are delusional fools who wouldn’t know the truth from a gum wrapper.
Yeah, what a delusion… Iraq under Saddam was a threat. How foolish! Iran is a threat! ridiculous! Islamofascism is the source of most global terrorism today! Whooo hoooo hooo my sides ache!
The unholy twins of Islamic extremism and neoconservative demagoguery are the greatest threats to the security of the world today. Like the twin engines of heat and moisture that feed a tornado, they’re slowly pulling the rest of the world into their maelstrom of hate and fanaticism and may God help us all if we don’t stop them both in time.
Yes, it makes perfect sense to me that neoconservativism and Islamofascism would be viewed as equal threats. I mean one targets civilians, the other targets those nations rated the worst at human rights. What’s the difference.
Erm … it’s not really democratic if you incarcerate and then hang the favourite. Many reports are coming out of Iraq that the locals believe they were far better of under Hussein (not saying he’s a good guy, but apparently better for the country than the occupying force and its puppet government perhaps).
Or is this ‘American democracy’ that you speak of?
What was I thinking? I mean three elections? That had never been held before? How could I possibly have considered this Iraqi government as democratic?
That is not the definition of democracy.
Your post is a classic example of the moral confusion and absolute refusal to deal with objective standards. Yeah. What’s it all about dude?
