If this doesn’t confuse you, then I don’t know what will. The public voted Hau Long-Bin and Jason Hu back into office despite not trusting them (based on the poll used for the article).
[quote]Hu, on the other hand, has been the mayor in Taichung for more than eight years, the magazine noted. His lack of an impressive administrative performance in the past should be blamed for the poor score he received, despite his personal popularity, the magazine said.
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Even after having 8 years of Jason Hu’s ‘bad administrative performance’, the public still managed to vote him back into office. :loco: …It’s looking more like the voters voting for whoever has the biggest chance of winning an election (in order to simply be on the winning side, rather then losing) than voting for the candidate they like best and overlooking past performance.
If this doesn’t confuse you, then I don’t know what will. The public voted Hau Long-Bin and Jason Hu back into office despite not trusting them (based on the poll used for the article).
[quote]Hu, on the other hand, has been the mayor in Taichung for more than eight years, the magazine noted. His lack of an impressive administrative performance in the past should be blamed for the poor score he received, despite his personal popularity, the magazine said.
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Even after having 8 years of Jason Hu’s ‘bad administrative performance’, the public still managed to vote him back into office. :loco: …It’s looking more like the voters voting for whoever has the biggest chance of winning an election (in order to simply be on the winning side, rather then losing) than voting for the candidate they like best and overlooking past performance.[/quote]
Patronage networks, organized crime, money distribution, seem like a more robust explanation to me.
There is no democracy in Taiwan. It’s all an illusion. There is no democracy in US or Europe either. We’re headed to a one world government. Embrace the NWO.
A friend of mine plays poker with a local mayor. I could tell you some stories (but I won’t but word has it that he loved it when he won big at the poker table cause then he could “go buy some more votes!”
Ah, yes. Democracy at it’s most obtuse. But I guess it’s better than a dictatorship!
I hope the Blue do win the Presidency. I think Ma is doing an excellent job. I’ll be here to gloat if he wins and will be here to be on the receiving end of gloating if he loses.
Hmm, but then you don’t actually have to live in Taiwan, do you? So easy to support the great unificationist cause from a safe distance.[/quote]
To be fair, many independence supporters live abroad as well, but aren’t usually doubted because of it.[/quote]
This is true, but I’d venture to say the proportion of overseas unificationists (as opposed to those pan-blue supporters who take a “wait and see” or “status quo” approach) to Taiwan-based unificationists is much higher than among independence supporters.
Agree about the lack of trustworthy candidates from either side though.
Hmm, but then you don’t actually have to live in Taiwan, do you? So easy to support the great unificationist cause from a safe distance.[/quote]
To be fair, many independence supporters live abroad as well, but aren’t usually doubted because of it.[/quote]
This is true, but I’d venture to say the proportion of overseas unificationists (as opposed to those pan-blue supporters who take a “wait and see” or “status quo” approach) to Taiwan-based unificationists is much higher than among independence supporters.
Agree about the lack of trustworthy candidates from either side though.[/quote]
Among overseas Taiwanese? It would be interesting to see some data on that.
Hmm, but then you don’t actually have to live in Taiwan, do you? So easy to support the great unificationist cause from a safe distance.[/quote]
To be fair, many independence supporters live abroad as well, but aren’t usually doubted because of it.[/quote]
This is true, but I’d venture to say the proportion of overseas unificationists (as opposed to those pan-blue supporters who take a “wait and see” or “status quo” approach) to Taiwan-based unificationists is much higher than among independence supporters.
Agree about the lack of trustworthy candidates from either side though.[/quote]
Among overseas Taiwanese? It would be interesting to see some data on that.[/quote]
I’d love to see that too. Also, I’d like to see it broken out by nation of residence.
Actually Vork you listed such a paper a few months back. It was from a german university on taisheng identity. Maybe you guys are thinking more of American or Canadian communities but among Taiwanese in China the study showed that the percentage of those who considered themselves Taiwanese as opposed to Chinese, and supported either the status quo or eventual unification, was almost the reverse of what it is here in 2011. In fact it’s more representative of the percentages 10-15 years ago when large numbers of Taiwanese started moving to China for business. This is not surprising as expat communities tend not to change with the times as they are removed from their larger cultural community. To extrapolate then, it’s very likely as Taffy said that overseas communities in the west would also tend to be more pro-unificationist and more likely to identify themselves as Chinese.
In my high school I attend I know around 3 Taiwanese in my grade. All of them get really mad if you ever said Taiwan is part of China. The problem is they might not of cared before (like me) but when provoked by chinese students (pro commies) that think Taiwan is part of China it motivates us to search the history and learn more about Taiwan. Therefore I would say probably more overseas Taiwanese advocating for independence due to the disrespect Chinese have on Taiwanese overseas. Honestly, sometimes I just want to take them to Taiwan and say “now say Taiwan is part of China here”.
Interesting point. How would you compare your generation’s attitudes to your parents?[/quote]
My parents used to lean towards “DPP” however since Chen Shui Bian’s corruption (sorry if i misspelt his name) they lean towards more “BLUE” because of the “usually” better econonmy Taiwan is in when blue is in power. However, if green ever had a chance again to show that it leans towards independence and somehow make the Taiwan economy even better then my parents probably lean back towards it again. The only reason blue won in 2008 is because our economy was pretty much crap and the corruption surrounding green.
Talking about chinese people in overseas community commenting on Taiwan, the educated chinese people many of them believe Taiwan is a country. And many chinese people I talked to do not like the government (many say its the second worst government after N.K).
but word has it that he loved it when he won big at the poker table cause then he could “go buy some more votes!”