US Politics - The Party of Chains

Maybe a bit US-centric, but a look at the Democratic Party and its effects on Blacks in the USA.

[quote]Party of Chains
The greatest oppressors of blacks have been Democrats, says Bruce Bartlett.
8 February 2008
Wrong on Race: The Democratic Party’s Buried Past, by Bruce Bartlett (Palgrave Macmillan, 288 pp., $26.95)

Two years ago, on his Daily Kos website, Markos Moulitsas asked: “Is it any wonder the GOP is the party of racists?” While Moulitsas conceded that “not every Republican is a racist,” he maintained that “the opposite—every racist is a Republican—is just about right.”

Such sentiments typify a common view that racism is the soul of the Republican Party, and that black Republicans are traitors to their race, or at least peculiar. Bruce Bartlett sets the record straight in Wrong on Race: The Democratic Party’s Buried Past, in which he observes to the contrary that “virtually every significant racist in American political history was a Democrat.” Democrats are today best known as the party of the “little man,” but the party’s original agrarian base included plantation owners distinctly uninterested in the abolition of slavery. The Democratic Party, then, was home to politicians determined to maintain blacks as possessions.
(read the article at the link)
city-journal.org/2008/bc0208jm.html[/quote]

I also highly recommend the web site CITY JOURNAL

Also see:

The Racist History of the Democratic Party

Is this your black history month contribution? Okay I accept.:laughing:

[quote]
History reveals that every piece of racist legislation that was ever passed and every racist terrorist attack that was ever inflicted on African Americans, was initiated by the members of the Democratic Party[/quote]

:whistle: Wow, that’s painting with some pretty broad strokes there. I only glanced at the rest, I will have to go back and read later(it will be in a holding pattern behind the two novels, and 5 chapters I must read for school this week) to see how they support their argument.

I wonder how members the democrats currently have on their books, which actively suppressed african-americans.

Political parties are the sum of their members, and for the Dems, that has seen a huge shift since 1865. (Or 1964 for that matter).

It’s well known that the Democrats were racist for much of their history. This isn’t news. But “history” is the key word here. In this case, it means “before the 1960s”. And the Democratic Party is much older than the so-called Grand “Old” Party.

The Dems’ advocacy and passage of the Civil Rights Act in 1964 pretty much put and end to racism within the party. The Dems essentially said there was no more room for racism within the party, and the racist Democrats (the Dixiecrats) fled to the Republican Party.

Nowadays, which party in the US is overwhelmingly supported by African-Americans?

[quote=“Chris”]
Nowadays, which party in the US is overwhelmingly supported by African-Americans?[/quote]

Anyone that P.Diddy holds.

Ohhh, bad girl, Nama, bad girl…

[quote=“Chris”]The Dems’ advocacy and passage of the Civil Rights Act in 1964 pretty much put and end to racism within the party.[/quote]Ya might wanna do some checking on this one. Republicans made the Civil Rights and Voting Acts happen. Sen. Dirkson, a Republican, from Illinois worked with LBJ and got the GOP to support the bills. Gore’s Dad voted against both acts.
See Senator Dirksen and Civil Rights.[quote=“Chris”]The Dems essentially said there was no more room for racism within the party, and the racist Democrats (the Dixiecrats) fled to the Republican Party.[/quote]Ah…the ever tossed red herring of “those racist southern Republicans!”. A myth then as well as now. ‘Jim Crow’ laws were the result of Democratic machine politics. The Republican Party was formed to end slavery, while the Democratic Party fought tooth and nail to keep slavery in place.
Time to mention that the so-called “radical” Republicans were called “radical” because they wanted to give blacks their full rights way back in the Civil War days. But who fought them? You got it.

Lincoln had selected Andrew Johnson, a Democrat, as his compromise running mate, but after Lincoln was assassinated, Johnson and the Democrats thwarted black rights, particularly in the South. Not until nearly one hundred years later did African Americans finally get the rights that Republicans had tried to give them immediately following the Civil War.

At that point, A Democrat LBJ, decided to take another strategy against blacks: make them as dependent as possible on government. And man did it ever work. It destroyed the black family, and created decades of a broken family society that depended on Uncle Sugar, but it got blacks to vote 90+% for the Demo Party.[quote=“Chris”]Nowadays, which party in the US is overwhelmingly supported by African-Americans?[/quote]Yes…yes it is. For now.

Yep, here’s the vote

[quote]By party

The original House version:

* Democratic Party: 164-96   (63%-37%)
* Republican Party: 138-34   (80%-20%)

The Senate version:

* Democratic Party: 46-22   (68%-32%)
* Republican Party: 27-6   (82%-18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:

* Democratic Party: 153-91   (63%-37%)
* Republican Party: 186-35   (80%-20%)[/quote]

So it was more strongly supported by Rs than Ds, even though it was introduced by a Democratic president.

Here’s a further breakdown:

[quote]By party and region

Note : “Southern”, as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. “Northern” refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

The original House version:

* Southern Democrats: 7-87   (7%-93%)
* Southern Republicans: 0-10   (0%-100%)

* Northern Democrats: 145-9   (94%-6%)
* Northern Republicans: 138-24   (85%-15%)

The Senate version:

* Southern Democrats: 1-20   (5%-95%) (only Senator Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
* Southern Republicans: 0-1   (0%-100%) (this was Senator John Tower of Texas)
* Northern Democrats: 45-1   (98%-2%) (only Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia opposed the measure)
* Northern Republicans: 27-5   (84%-16%) (Senators Bourke Hickenlooper of Iowa, Barry Goldwater of Arizona, Edwin L. Mechem of New Mexico, Milward L. Simpson of Wyoming, and Norris H. Cotton of New Hampshire opposed the measure)[/quote]

So the opposition among Democrats came almost entirely from Southerners.

And what happened to them? They either became Republicans, like Strom Thurmond, or were replaced by segregationists like Jesse Helms and Trent Lott, both Democrats who switched to the Republicans after the Civil Rights Act was passed.

The Southern Democrats who remained, like Eastland and Stennis, had to gradually back off from their earlier stands (whether their hearts were in it or not) and were replaced by Republicans when they retired.

Nixon’s successful Southern Strategy was based on luring the racists to the Republicans, where they have remained happily ensconced ever since.

Yip. Daniel Patrick Moynihan said as much in 1965 and was attacked by liberals within his own party.

dol.gov/oasam/programs/histo … ynihan.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Negro_ … nal_Action

city-journal.org/html/15_3_black_family.html

Excellent summation, MikeN. I am interested to see Tainan Cowboy’s response.

[quote=“gao_bo_han”]Excellent summation, MikeN. I am interested to see Tainan Cowboy’s response.[/quote]MikeN -
I would say ‘interesting’ rather than ‘excellent.’
I do believe, I am going from hazy memory here, that there was more than one vote taken on the issue you are posting. This is what motivated Sen. Dirksen to seek further action with Repubs in moving them towards support of this bill.
Might I see the link to sourcing for that information?

The deterioration of the American Black family unit as a result of the policies enacted by various Democratic admins has been well documented…Cheweys post give illustration of that.

As to the inference that the flight of racially discriminating Demo pols to the Republican party has turned the Repub party into a haven for racial, anti-Black, legislation…that has not been shown to e true. Indeed it would be illegal for such activities to be pursued in bills out forward or legislature enacted.
The USA does have laws against such things…eh?

Yeah, right. Sounds like Limbaughian dittoing to me.

In what way were Carter and Clinton anti-minority? And in what way were Reagan and Bush pro-minority?

[quote]As to the inference that the flight of racially discriminating Demo pols to the Republican party has turned the Repub party into a haven for racial, anti-Black, legislation…that ha.s not been shown to e true. Indeed it would be illegal for such activities to be pursued in bills out forward or legislature enacted.
The USA does have laws against such things…eh?[/quote]

Which party has consistently opposed affirmative action and hate crimes legislation? What about the racism of folks like Limbaugh (too numerous to list, but “Barack the Magic Negro”, “halfrican-American” and his rant about a black quarterback come to mind), Trent Lott, George “Macaca” Allen, James Watt, etc.? What about the voter disenfranchisement efforts of the GOP in Florida and Ohio (caging lists)? The Willie Horton ads? The “welfare queen” propaganda? The Southern Strategy? Republican support of Bob Jones University during its recent period of segregation? Reagan visiting Bitburg Cemetery, and when criticized by Jewish groups, he rebuffed them? The GOP accusation during the 2000 campaign that McCain had fathered a “black baby”? George W.'s refusal to meet with the family of James Byrd? The GOP’s constant reluctance to speak in front of black organizations or meet with black civil rights leaders? Bush’s appointment of racist judge Charles Pickering? The anti-Harold Ford ads in Tennessee? And then there’s the whole Confederate flag issue…

Racism in the Democratic Party is pre-1965…before I was even born. Ancient history. Everyone knows that; nobody denies it. Since that time, 43 years ago, Democrats have made anti-discrimination one of their strong suits.

Clinton appointed more women and minorities to the federal judicial bench in his first three years than his two predecessors did in their entire terms. There is far more racial diversity among Democratic congress members than Republican. The only minority Republican presidential candidate in recent memory has been that whacko Alan Keyes, compared to quite a few more among the Democrats. Hate crimes and affirmative action laws are overwhelmingly supported by Democrats.

One thing’s for sure: It’s become harder and harder for Republicans to be racist, which is why in recent years they’ve directed their hatred toward gays. Gotta hate someone.

Chris -

“…before I was even born.”

And there might be the reason for your …uhh…‘confusion.’

And you might want to more fully consider your comment about Pres Reagan and what effect his policies had on the Black economic situation.
As to Clinton*s ‘minority’ appointments…lol…yes…they’ve kept the DOJ busy for a number of years…LOL!

:laughing: :laughing: Oh really?

Jesse Jackson referred to Jews as “Hymies” and to New York City as “Hymietown” in January 1984 during a conversation with Washington Post. He never apologized for it.

Sharpton is well known for the “Diamond Merchants” comment about Jews which eventually incited a rock-throwing demonstration and precipitated the stabbing death of a young Jewish man with his assailants shouting “Kill the Jew!” Sharpton never apologized.

Some other comments:

“I’m not going to use the federal government’s authority deliberately to circumvent the natural inclination of people to live in ethnically homogeneous neighborhoods. . . . I have nothing against a community that’s made up of people who are Polish or Czechoslovakian or French-Canadian or blacks who are trying to maintain the ethnic purity of their neighborhoods.”

–Jimmy Carter, 1976
President, 1977-81
Winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, 2002

“Everybody likes to go to Geneva. I used to do it for the Law of the Sea conferences and you’d find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they’d just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva.”

–Sen. Ernest F. Hollings (D., S.C.) 1993
Chairman, Commerce Committee, 1987-95 and 2001-03
Candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, 1984

“I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia [Sen. Robert C. Byrd, a former Ku Klux Klan recruiter] that he would have been a great senator at any moment. . . . He would have been right during the great conflict of civil war in this nation.”

–Sen. Christopher Dodd (D., Conn.), 2004
Chairman, Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs
Candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, 2008

“You cannot go into a Dunkin’ Donuts or a 7-Eleven unless you have a slight Indian accent.”

“My
state was a slave state. My state is a border state. My state has the
eighth largest black population in the country. My state is anything
[but] a Northeastern liberal state.”

“I mean, you got
the first mainstream African American [Barack Obama] who is articulate
and bright and clean and a nice looking guy.”

“There’s
less than 1% of the population of Iowa that is African American. There
is probably less than 4% or 5% that is, are minorities. What is it in
Washington? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what
you’re dealing with.”

Sen. Joseph Biden Jr., (D., Del.), 2006-07
Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary, 1987-95
Chairman, Committee on Foreign Relations
Candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, 2008

[quote=“TainanCowboy”]Chris -

“…before I was even born.”

And there might be the reason for your …uhh…‘confusion.’[/quote]

How so? Indeed, I’ve found the more I learn, read and think, the more liberal (= freedom-loving) I become.

Under Raygun (two can play at that childish game), the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. And the poor included perhaps the majority of minorities. Under Clinton, the poor got richer and the rich got richer (Isn’t that what’s best? Everyone benefits?). Minorities fared far better under Clinton than under Reagan, Bush or Bush.

[quote=“TainanCowboy”]As to the inference that the flight of racially discriminating Demo pols to the Republican party has turned the Repub party into a haven for racial, anti-Black, legislation…that has not been shown to e true. Indeed it would be illegal for such activities to be pursued in bills out forward or legislature enacted.
The USA does have laws against such things…eh?[/quote]

Not exactly. The Bush administration doesn’t wear white sheets, but they might as well.

findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_q … i_n9364163

[quote]PRESIDENT’S BUDGET AND AFRICAN AMERICANS. . .

Squanders $1.7 trillion on tax breaks for the wealthy as African American families struggle to make ends meet. . .

Slashes funding for Medicare and Medicaid, even as the number of African Americans without health insurance climbs above 7.4 million. . .

Does not address the needs of African American households facing higher home heating costs and bigger bills at the pump. . .

Cuts housing assistance for Katrina survivors and slashes programs for revitalizing communities. . .

Betrays the nearly 8 million African American children enrolled in K-12 school. . .

Shortchanges college opportunity. . .

Leaves veterans and troops behind. . .

Cuts grants for local law enforcement and first responders. . .

Critically underfunds small business programs, impacting the 1.2 million African American-owned small businesses. . .

Denies job training opportunities. . .

Cuts nutrition for seniors and children, including school lunch. . .[/quote]
house.gov/schakowsky/2007Bud … ricans.doc

[quote]African Americans’ median income declined by an average of 1.6 percent per year under the current administration. . .

African Americans’ usual median weekly earnings have stagnated under Bush. . .

Under Bush, the percent of African Americans without health insurance has increased from 18.5 percent to 20.5 percent. . .

The growth rate of the number of employed African Americans has been 4.2 times slower under the current administration than it was during the 1990s. . .

The employment to population ratio for African Americans has declined faster than that of the Whites under the current administration. . .

Unemployment levels for African Americans increased by an average of 0.2 percent each year under the current administration after declining in the 1990s. . .

The increase in African-American homeownership has been slower under Bush than the 1990s. . .

More African Americans are in poverty under Bush. . .[/quote]
americanprogress.org/issues/ … genda.html

[quote]Aggressive legal tactics by the Bush administration have deliberately undermined a landmark 1997 civil rights settlement with African-American farmers, turning the claims process into another chapter in a long history of discriminatory treatment by the US Department of Agriculture. . .

almost nine out of 10 black farmers have been denied compensation for discrimination over USDA crop loans, even though U.S. District Court for the District Columbia – in approving the settlement – had described compensation payment as “automatic.” Instead the USDA, under the leadership of President Bush’s Secretary of Agriculture Ann Veneman, has withheld three-quarters of the $2.3 billion agreed to in the settlement. . .

African-American farmers brought suit against USDA in 1997 in an historic civil rights case known as Pigford V. Glickman (now titled Pigford V. Veneman), claiming that USDA systematically discriminated against African-Americans by denying them crop loans readily made available to comparable white farmers. . .

The Reagan administration eliminated the USDA’s Office of Civil Rights in 1982, leaving African-American farmers no avenue for appealing loan denials they believed to be discriminatory.

In 1996, the Clinton administration re-established USDA’s office of Civil Rights, and in 1997 made an admission of discrimination in its own study of USDA operations. Finalized under Agriculture Secretary Dan Glickman, the settlement was based on USDA’s 1997 civil rights study. . .[/quote]
rising-hegemon.blogspot.com/2004 … ds-up.html

Is it any surprise that. . .

[quote]
President Bush’s job-approval rating among African Americans has dropped to 2 percent
, according to a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll. . .[/quote]
washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 00885.html

:laughing: :laughing: Oh really?

Jesse Jackson referred to Jews as “Hymies” and to New York City as “Hymietown” in January 1984 during a conversation with Washington Post. He never apologized for it.

Sharpton is well known for the “Diamond Merchants” comment about Jews which eventually incited a rock-throwing demonstration and precipitated the stabbing death of a young Jewish man with his assailants shouting “Kill the Jew!” Sharpton never apologized.

Some other comments:

“I’m not going to use the federal government’s authority deliberately to circumvent the natural inclination of people to live in ethnically homogeneous neighborhoods. . . . I have nothing against a community that’s made up of people who are Polish or Czechoslovakian or French-Canadian or blacks who are trying to maintain the ethnic purity of their neighborhoods.”

–Jimmy Carter, 1976
President, 1977-81
Winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, 2002

“Everybody likes to go to Geneva. I used to do it for the Law of the Sea conferences and you’d find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they’d just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva.”

–Sen. Ernest F. Hollings (D., S.C.) 1993
Chairman, Commerce Committee, 1987-95 and 2001-03
Candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, 1984

“I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia [Sen. Robert C. Byrd, a former Ku Klux Klan recruiter] that he would have been a great senator at any moment. . . . He would have been right during the great conflict of civil war in this nation.”

–Sen. Christopher Dodd (D., Conn.), 2004
Chairman, Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs
Candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, 2008

“You cannot go into a Dunkin’ Donuts or a 7-Eleven unless you have a slight Indian accent.”

“My
state was a slave state. My state is a border state. My state has the
eighth largest black population in the country. My state is anything
[but] a Northeastern liberal state.”

“I mean, you got
the first mainstream African American [Barack Obama] who is articulate
and bright and clean and a nice looking guy.”

“There’s
less than 1% of the population of Iowa that is African American. There
is probably less than 4% or 5% that is, are minorities. What is it in
Washington? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what
you’re dealing with.”

Sen. Joseph Biden Jr., (D., Del.), 2006-07
Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary, 1987-95
Chairman, Committee on Foreign Relations
Candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, 2008[/quote]

The difference is that among Democrats, such incidents are few and far between. It’s far more endemic and active (e.g. creating ads preying on racist fears or actively seeking to deny minorities the opportunity to vote) within the GOP. In most of the cases above, the people in question have apologized. Byrd renounced his KKK past long ago and is now one of the foremost constitutionalists in the Senate. Some (like Al Sharpton) I don’t care for anyway.

I don’t believe that most Republican voters are racists. But I am convinced that most racist voters in the US are Republicans.

Holding up the banner.
Republican Lawmaker wants Confederate flag specialty plate in Fla.

In that case, I think you need to be sent to a re-education camp. :laughing:

humanevents.com/article.php?id=15893

how come Mr Sam Ple gets a personalised number plate? I want one too.

You just have to give 25USD to a white supremacist organization.