Vasectomy- must prove I am not married!

Just approached a hospital in Taichung with the possibility of getting a vasectomy done…the doctor who carries out the operation said that in Taiwan if you are married - which shows on Taiwanese national ID card - you must get your wife’s permission according to the law. But as my ARC does not indicate my marital status he is not sure how to proceed and could I prove that I am not married! (I am not by the way). I think he said I am the first foreigner he has met requiring this operation or the first one claiming to be unmarried and wanting this operation - not quite sure which he meant.

So we left it at that with both of us deciding to look further into it.

Those who got married before coming to Taiwan, does it say so on your ARC?

Anybody else been in a similar situation?

[quote=“ryanx”]Just approached a hospital in Taichung with the possibility of getting a vasectomy done…the doctor who carries out the operation said that in Taiwan if you are married - which shows on Taiwanese national ID card - you must get your wife’s permission according to the law. But as my ARC does not indicate my marital status he is not sure how to proceed and could I prove that I am not married! (I am not by the way). I think he said I am the first foreigner he has met requiring this operation or the first one claiming to be unmarried and wanting this operation - not quite sure which he meant.

So we left it at that with both of us deciding to look further into it.

Those who got married before coming to Taiwan, does it say so on your ARC?

Anybody else been in a similar situation?[/quote]
Maybe get a certificate of no impediment from your home country? Basically a solicitor or notary public-witnessed letter stating that you are not married, with your passport number, name, etc on it. You can get your mother or father to get it as your proxy. They then need to send it to the Free China headquarters in London, along with a little money and an envelope addressed to you. The office will verify that the notary or solicitor is bona fide and will then put its chop on the back and mail it to you. Show it to your doctor and he’ll have you emasculated in two shakes of a lamb’s tail.

You simply need an affidavit. The AIT should be able to do that, for a fee, if you’re American.

Alternatively, me & snadman will be happy to do the honours for 2 bottles of Silver Grouse and a couple cartons of New Paradise #5.

Which leads to another subject for discussion… Does a woman need to prove she isn’t married in order to have an abortion?

Or a hysterectomy? This whole business sounds absurd.

Your ARC won’t say you are married just because you are married (I think). It WILL, however say “purpose of residence”, which, if you are married is LIKELY to say so (in Chinese, along with your wife’s name). It does in my case anyway.

You could try showing the doctor your “purpose for residence” on the card and try persuading him that if you were married your wife’s name would be on there (I’m sure there are some people that for one reason or another have chosen to go for a simple work-related visa instead of this, but the doc doesn’t really need to be told this).

Of course, all of this assumes the marriage (or lack of it) is to a Taiwanese spouse, not someone from another country.

Thanks Sandman!

I could understand if I wanted to get married…So basically your wife can stop you from getting the operation? Is this just an insane law here in Taiwan? I wonder if this is the same in some other countries too, never really thought about it before. Does a woman need her husband’s permission to get an abortion here?

I am certainly not going to waste time and money trying to prove that I am not married!

[quote=“ryanx”]
I am certainly not going to waste time and money trying to prove that I am not married![/quote]

All they have to do is look at how happy and carefree you are and it will be obvious that you are not married :laughing:

[quote=“ryanx”]Thanks Sandman!
I am certainly not going to waste time and money trying to prove that I am not married![/quote]
So you’ve decided to take the chief up on his kind offer? Great! Only this time, the chief, YOU hold the bugger down and I’LL do the libbing. We don’t want a repeat of the last fiasco. We have a reputation to uphold.

reminds me of this famous craigslist post: http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sea/274495936.html

Yes. See Articles 9 and 10 of the Eugenics Act (Chinese).

[quote=“grumpy”][quote=“ryanx”]
I am certainly not going to waste time and money trying to prove that I am not married![/quote]

All they have to do is look at how happy and carefree you are and it will be obvious that you are not married :laughing:[/quote]
Your user name is starting to make sense all of a sudden. :laughing:

A bit more info for you.

The AIT can issue an affidavit if you are American and the Canadian Trade Office can do the same if you are Canadian. The cost is around 2000NT. I have no info on other nationalities.

I asked a colleague of mine who had the surgery. He told me that he went to a “penis specialist.” He only had to sign a waver. The surgeon asked him if his wife agreed but no legal documents were required. Maybe you should go to a penis specialist instead of the hospital.

Hey, RobinTaiwan. Is this piece of ridiculous legislation particular to Taiwan or is it practiced elsewhere? Please inform a legal moron.

[quote=“jimipresley”]Hey, RobinTaiwan. Is this piece of ridiculous legislation particular to Taiwan or is it practiced elsewhere? Please inform a legal moron.[/quote]Paternal rights on abortion vary depending on the region. It’s definitely not particular to Taiwan.

Yes. See Articles 9 and 10 of the Eugenics Act (Chinese).[/quote]

Here’s the English translation.

hsph.harvard.edu/population/ … an.abo.htm

NOT to be confused with jimipresley, who is, you know, just a “penis”

I am surprised Vasectomy needs the consent of a wife in Taiwan…I didn’t need to give one. Maybe each hospital has their own policy, The husband got it done at the adventist in Taipei, and I wasn’t involved at all, I think he went to a(n) Urologist.

Yeah, I can almost certainly guarantee me and Snadman weren’t on that job.
I’m pretty sure I’d remember.