[Video] Asian's most griefsome reflection on their failure of democratization

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(It is a Japanese style animation, hope you will enjoy! :slight_smile: )

What behind this video is a very serious problem of Taiwan's democratization:

Taiwan, Republic of China(not the “China” you know!!!), is the first democratic country in Asia.

Bush, the President of United State even once accomplished Taiwan as “the democracy beacon” in Asia. However,
the infamous chaos took place in the conference hall—physical conflicts, throwing lunch boxes, and so on—
cast a shadow on the honorable history. That’s why we are here proposing this video to you.

Taiwan's government system is very close to the system of USA.  Nevertheless, the congressman doesn't have

the autonomy on voting, for the party they belong has the right to eliminate their qualification in the parliament.
That is to say, they can only vote for “party”, and NEVER will PEOPLE’s INTEREST is taken into consideration!!

China, Singapore and a lot of Asia countries are more willing to maintain their dictatorship. The famous Chinese

movie star Jackie Chan even once said “Taiwan is disordered…, it is because they HAVE FREEDOM! And Chinese
is a nation should be put under control.” How ridiculous!! We believe in freedom, we believe in democracy,
as you do, and we persist on.

As we mentioned in the video, what we have accomplished is admirable---but far from enough.

There are lots of problems remain unsolved, and we want to rectify them, and you can help us, help Taiwan!

We Urges True Democracy!  We would never tolerate parliamentary autonomy damaged by political parties.

To make this young democracy better, we need your help!

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Good work. But it’s not about democracy.

It’s about whether you really understand what’s true evil. It’s a moral issue.

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I don’t understand this. Lawmakers leave parties, get booted out of parties, change parties, and run as independents all the time.

Taiwan’s problem isn’t in its implementation of democracy, its because of systematic incompetence and corruption in all branches of government.

While I think that most people would agree there has been some progress in identifying and punishing corruption, there has been no effort to tackle official incompetence (probably because there’s nobody competent to do it :neutral: ).

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Taiwan was not the first democratic government in Asia. There’s Japan you know. And Korea.

Also there is nothing wrong with members of the legislative having to generally vote on party lines. The LY is a national assembly, and votes are often of a national nature not simply local. You need people who are willing to vote for the good of the country and not simply their narrow constituency. Within reason of course.

Furthermore, members are supported by a particular party and would not have gotten their position without party support. That doesn’t mean that they owe the party a favor, but that they are assumed to believe in that platform and to be willing to help see it passed as legislation. If they don’t they should not run as a member of that party. They are being deceitful.

Party discipline is vital to getting legislation passed. It’s not a conspiracy against democracy.

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You don’t want parliamentary autonomy damaged by political parties? You can 1. Ban all political parties and make each representative run as an independent or 2. go to a direct democratic system and each citizen gets to vote on all matters.

But I have yet to see a modern democratic country not have political parties so it would seem party based representative democracy is here to stay.

However, I think your main beef is not with party politics but, rather, you think what is wrong with politics in Taiwan is unique to Taiwan. Let me assure you that what you are witnessing is not a problem isolated to Taiwan. The USA also has 2 major parties and their parliamentary system is just as dysfunctional.

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The solution is to form a core group of informed intellectuals, statesmen, strategists, tacticians and leaders of various levels and areas,

to secure and defend the national interest of Taiwan (and Taiwan only as defined by the boundaries). They will pass down the know-hows, doctrines, and practices securely, keeping in mind the national independence and national development for the next 300 years. All nations have this core. Implementation is another issue.

Invariably this means the current Chinese Nationalist core needs to be excluded because they are of China and not of Taiwan.

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a few years ago KMT and the DPP cooperated to make it really difficult to form a political party if you can’t get something like 5% of the vote from the start, some sneaky stuff they pulled together.

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Note quite. Anyone can form a political party. Taiwan has a bi-vote system for LY, one for a district candidate and one for a political party. If a party does not get 5% of the general vote then they don’t get to send anyone to the LY from the political party vote.

But yeah, the KMT and DPP have a lot of things in common. Such as the desire to retain power.

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Note quite. Anyone can form a political party. Taiwan has a bi-vote system for LY, one for a district candidate and one for a political party. If a party does not get 5% of the general vote then they don’t get to send anyone to the LY from the political party vote.

But yeah, the KMT and DPP have a lot of things in common. Such as the desire to retain power.[/quote]
Actually KMT and DPP DID cooperated to make it really difficult for a third political party to be relevant.DDP thought they were gonna prevail in every election in the future,and KMT knew they were gonna prevail in every election in the future,so they did the thing.

DDP has never been smart tbqh.

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Japan is a democracy today because of the efforts of the Allied Powers. None of the Allied Powers themselves are innocent of committing their own atrocities. But let us give credit where credit is due.

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Which is the result of what?

And is enabled by what?

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[quote=“rowland”][quote=“monkey”]
Taiwan’s problem isn’t in its implementation of democracy, its because of systematic incompetence and corruption in all branches of government.
[/quote]

Which is the result of what?

And is enabled by what?[/quote]

Ans1 This is the result of the Chinese being a quasi-religion is fundamentally against (1) Checks and Balances, and (2) the Rule of Law. See Francis Fukuyama.

THE ROC is a religion-based for profit corporation. We do not see the same in Singapore and Japan.

Ans2 This is enabled by its armed department, which shares the identical organizational culture as the rest.