Here’s an answer anyway. Little long, but oh well, not as long as eight years or maybe as long as it takes to pull out your fingernails while your screams are muffled with something horrid or anything.[quote=“fred smith”]Anyway, dying to hear when that pipeline across Afghanistan is going to be built… such powerful people… taking soooooo looong to get around to using their evil connections… When will it be built WHEN? … Love to hear more ABOUT that.[/quote]Didn’t Vay’s quote from Murray 5 posts earlier help answer this question before it was asked? Don’t die. Just consider.
This from the Goodman interview referenced in the opening post of this thread:[quote=“Craig Murray”]Yes. Enron cut a deal with Uzbekistan to exploit Uzbekistan’s natural gas reserves. … And Uzbekistan dominates Central Asia. It has half the population of the whole region. It has, by far, the biggest army and the most muscle.[/quote]Also shares a border with Afghanistan and U.S. forces utilized military base(s) from within Uzbekistan for invasions and secret detainment.
The war on terror, if you like, was a cover for these activities. And that’s why they needed this false intelligence
, saying that the Uzbek opposition was all Islamic terrorists.[/quote]Oops, he did say false intelligence was the goal. I didn’t say that, in fact I hadn’t read that interview until a few days ago.
This appears to be the point. The motives of securing pipeline profits I don’t think you’re willing or able to counter, regardless of admittance, but the failure of Enron in its pursuit of global greatness does NOTHING to deny U.S. policy to obtain torture confessions to justify the War on Terror.
Now, this just off the press. Strange how the empire’s invisible robe continues to fail concealment of the ugly reality that torture was systematically and politically encouraged in the name of American freedom.[quote]
Documents Detail Conditions Found at Secret C.I.A. Jails
NY Times, November 1, 2009
Newly disclosed passages from a 2008 report by the Justice Department inspector general describe what agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation saw at the C.I.A. jail where Ramzi bin al-Shibh, one of the plotters of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, was being questioned.
The F.B.I. agents helped C.I.A. officers prepare questions for Mr. Binalshibh but “were denied direct access to him for four or five days,” the report said. Then an F.B.I. agent, identified as “Thomas,” was allowed to see him and found him “naked and chained to the floor.”
The agent told the inspector general that "he obtained valuable actionable intelligence in a short time but that the C.I.A. quickly shut down the interview," the report said.[/quote]Valuable and actionable! Do either of these colloquialisms equate to legal or even reasonable credibility? Of course, right? Haven’t most of us been well conditioned beyond personal conscience to trust such confessions?
Cross this with reported confessions:[quote]Detainees Say They Planned Sept. 11
March 9, 2009
The five detainees at Guantánamo Bay charged with planning the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks have filed a document with the military commission at the United States naval base there expressing pride at their accomplishment and accepting full responsibility for the killing of nearly 3,000 people.
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All five of the men have said they want to represent themselves, but in the case of these two men, Ramzi bin al-Shibh and Mustafa Ahmed al-Hawsawi, the military judge had not yet determined their competency when the proceedings were halted.[/quote]
The CIA interrogations, were EXACTLY the Bush1&2/Cheney/Rove/Wolfowitz/Lay+Thomas E. White(Enron) policy directives executed on behalf of ‘American interests’ to secure confessions at any cost to justify the " War on Terror ".
[quote]C.I.A. Interrogations
After the attacks of Sept. 11, President Bush signed a series of directives authorizing the Central Intelligence Agency to conduct a covert war against Osama bin Laden’s terrorist network, Al Qaeda. The directives empowered the agency to kill or capture Al Qaeda leaders.
The C.I.A. began jailing suspects in 2002, creating a detention and interrogation program from scratch to deal with so-called “high value detainees” of the war on terror. Its detention program for Al Qaeda leaders was the most secretive component of an extensive regime of detention and interrogation put into place by the United States government after the Sept. 11 attacks and the war in Afghanistan.
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Mr. Bush signed the Military Commissions Act the following month, the White House released a statement calling the agency’s detention program "
one of the most successful intelligence efforts in American history
." The act would “ensure that we can continue using this vital tool to protect the American people for years to come,” Mr. Bush said.
The C.I.A. interrogation techniques were fully confirmed by the Obama administration in April 2009, when they released Justice Department memos that authorized a range of brutal interrogation techniques…[/quote]
Come on, the failure of Enron’s pipeline ambitions represent no valid justification for the War on Terror. Rather the evidence of motives to secure future corporate profits and military advancements in the region are completely worth understanding.
Vice President Dick Cheney asked Indian opposition leader Sonia Gandhi about a multimillion-dollar debt owed to Enron from a major energy project in India - June 2001.[quote=“The Nation”]Cheney also provided other official services to Enron. Copies of e-mails obtained by the New York Daily News indicate that Cheney aided an attempt by Enron to force the Maharashtra State Electricity Board in India to pay it at least $2.3 billion in connection with a failed $2.9 billion effort to develop a power plant… June 28, 2001, e-mail from a National Security Council aide…
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Neither the Justice Department nor Congress appear to be prepared to conduct the sort of investigation that is required to expose the full extent of the Bush Administration’s service to Enron. That investigation would have to be broad, since the connections with Enron are not limited to Cheney’s office. From Army Secretary Thomas White, a former Enron executive, to Trade Representative Robert Zoellick, formerly on Enron’s advisory council, Enron’s tentacles have reached throughout the Bush White House, shaping tax, trade, energy and environmental policy. All such connections are worthy of legal and Congressional scrutiny.[/quote]
Personally, I don’t care who is in office, who occupies a seat in congress or on a bench. If Americans such as you and I don’t care enough to speak out, who will? Do you think Jamal Mirsaidov’s story will make Fox News? (see article’s 6th reference to ‘Mirsaidov’: adolescent grandson was found tortured to death through beating with iron bars and boiling his body parts.) The answer is no. Its up to you and I and anyone else who loves America.
