Warning about flying back to Canada now (May 2021)

There is no enforcement of any quarantine anywhere in the US. You are required to provide a negative covid test (from no more than three days before take off) before you are allowed to board your flight. You are supposed to self quarantine in a number of states, but no one comes to check on you and there’s no penalty for noncompliance.

The J&J vaccine is one jab but only 60% effective. Even one dose of the two jab vaccines are closer to 80% or more effective two weeks after the first dose. If you have a choice, it makes no sense to get the J&J at this point. But that’s provided you have a choice, which not all states offer. Also, there’s no data on how long one dose of a two dose vaccine is effective for.

Isn’t the Canadian boarder closed to travelers entering from the US right now?

Either way, IMHO going through America is not a good idea.
You could catch the virus (look at how many Americans have it and how the numbers are rising).
For a snowbird who has been vaccinated the land border may be a good plan (presuming the land borders are open) but for someone not vaccinated it is probably not a good idea.
For the record, my objective is to warn people about the possible cost at this time and I am trying to find options (I want to protect myself and others).

Not really. Find a flight that arrives at Calgary (you’ll probably be going TPE - SFO - DEN - Calgary) in the late afternoon then grab a night flight out east. You could probably make the 00:15 for Toronto or the 01:10 for Montreal on Air Canada.

Canada actually has higher Covid rates at the moment. Plus, if you go through the US… free vaccine!

Are you sure they would give it to a Canadian?
And at the airport? Sorry if those are silly questions.

Never closed to commercial travel, Canadian citizens, or those with prior authorization to enter Canada (ie, family reunification) Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) and visitors to Canada: Uniting with family members - Canada.ca

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Sure. California, Texas, New York doesn’t make residency a requirement. Think about all the illegal immigrants in those states. They need the vaccine too. Getting Vaccinated For Free In The USA: Our First Impressions - Flytrippers

You would get it at a pharmacy like in the post above.

So my advice is book TPE - SFO, chill for a day, then go onwards to Canada. Or if you have a long layover (4.5hrs plus) you can probably find a pharmacy in San Mateo (where SFO is) to get the vaxxx.

Really interesting that Calgary is one of the cities/airports listed for accepting international flights for the 3 day quarantine (Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver and Calgary).
Supposedly you need to show your 3 day hotel quarantine payment (document) upon arrival.
I wonder if in Calgary they just don’t ask at all or do ask but can’t really do anything about it if you don’t have it.

Just an FYI, United’s TPE-SFO flight contains a technical stop in Guam due to the Novotel disaster. No passengers on or off, but an extra three hours in the air/on the ground to add to the trip

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For those following this thread:
Would you try to get around the 14 day quarantine?
I mean it exists for a reason and I would hate to spread the virus.

I called the Corona hotline and they said only need 3 days and the rest can be at home.

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You have to book and pay for 3 days at one of the government approved quarantine hotels in the first city you arrive in (Calgary, Vancouver, Toronto, or Montreal). The rest of the 14-day quarantine period can be done at home, at another hotel, at a friend’s place, etc. You have to have a suitable quarantine plan, so staying with elderly parents may not be allowed. If you really cannot afford the 3-day hotel quarantine, the officials might send you to a free government quarantine facility. They will first threaten to fine you, and they will ask you to borrow money from family or friends. Once the 3-day hotel stay is done, you can fly to another Canadian city if you want.
Source: I arrived back in Canada at the end of March, was sent to a free quarantine facility, and then was able to fly home.

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I’m hearing quarantine hotel is ~CND$2500 for 3 days. And some horror stories about no food for a day and no bottled water and they aren’t strict about room quarantine.

Some people just go straight home and pay $3000 fine.

It will be less than $2000 for one person. Calgary has the cheapest quarantine hotels. The food quality was atrocious at first, and is still bad in some of the hotels. In others the managers have stepped up their game and the food is OK. Look for recent reviews to check. The program seems to have been badly mismanaged, but it does appear to be improving. It sounds like if you just want to leave the airport and not go to a quarantine hotel, Calgary is not enforcing the fines. The other three cities are hit and miss.

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Free quarantine for 3 days or 14 days?

Did the government hotel have WIFI?

Sounds about right for Canada.out of curiosity if you own a house, are you allowed to quarantine in your own house? Lets say you transfer to an airport near where you live and arrange your own.car to dridrive directly there.

BUT: if the flight goes through Vancouver and then Calgary then this does not work as in Vancouver they will fine you, right?

You have to do the three-day hotel quarantine in the first city you arrive in, so if you are going to Calgary, but transitting through Vancouver, you do the three-day quarantine in Vancouver. Once the three days are up, you can fly to Calgary and go where you intend to finish the quarantine. After the three-day hotel quarantine, you can quarantine at home as long as the government official at the border approves your quarantine plan.
The quarantine hotels have free wi-fi.
If you are sent to the free government quarantine, you might end up staying longer than three days. You have to get your test results back, and then you have to talk to a quarantine officer. There was a 48 hour to 72 hour wait to talk to an officer when I was there, so I ended up at the free facility for five days. If you go to the quarantine hotel that you pay for, you can leave as soon as you get your test results, if negative.
The free government quarantine facility only keeps people for 14 days if they do not have a suitable place to quarantine. Otherwise it is three to five days, then you can go home.

You have to stay at a hotel when you arrive in Canada, either a quarantine hotel that you pay for, or a free quarantine facility that the government pays for. This is true even if you live near the airport. Some people were complaining because they could see their house from the plane on approach to Toronto, but were not allowed to go there.
Once the hotel quarantine is over (one to three days for the paid one, three to five for the free one) you can go home and finish the 14-day quarantine there.
A few people are exempt from the quarantine requirement. Essential workers, people coming to Canada to help someone who is dying, air crew, and so on.