WCIF - a decent source for house/apartment rentals inTaiwan

After trying a variety of websites, I’m still struggling to find a place to rent in Taipei.

Which of these would you rate are good ways to find rental accommodation? Any others?

  1. 591 - prices seem a bit ridiculous though. Lots of bargaining needed, time wasted when seeing the place. Misrepresentation,crappy photos.
  2. Forumosa ads - I get no responses
  3. Taiwanese - seems like prices are way to high
  4. House agents - have to find them first, end up paying higher prices for commisions
  5. Tealit - is it just me or no one replies to the “tealit email addresses” I send to?
  6. Taipei FB buy and sell - a few choices only
  7. Airbnb - expensive

Are there better ways? I’m looking for house shares or my own place… just struggling to find them online properly for evaluation.

How do you guys hunt for decent deals?

Try 催媽媽
http://www.tmm.org.tw/

My first apartment was procured by my school when I first arrived in Taiwan. In the six years since then I found each of my next three apartments using 591. I’ve never had to look in Taipei, only Taoyuan and Hualien, so that may have some bearing.

Fortunately I’ve always been able to find an apartment with the particular amenities I want (eg. kitchen area, balcony, trash service, etc.) in my price range (always negotiated lower than what is listed), but it takes persistence and usually looking at a number of [strike]dumps[/strike] places before you find the right one for you. Yeah, that’s wasted time, but for me I kind of felt like I was on a treasure hunt.

You’re right–the photos tend to be crap–but go take a look anyway and you might be surprised and find a winner. That’s been my experience, anyway.

[quote=“cyberguppy”]Which of these would you rate are good ways to find rental accommodation? Any others?
[…] How do you guys hunt for decent deals?[/quote]
591 is the name of the game, unless you want to share with other foreigners (worth considering) and then it’s Teashit (a shitty website, as the name suggests, but unfortunately everyone uses it because everyone else uses it). I don’t think e-mailing is the best way, get a phone and call. In any case, avoid agents, on 591 there’s an option to filter them out.

591, and qijiji (kijiji).

Sometimes photos are touched up or nr. of pings inflated. We had that a few times.

And yes, phone them. Mostly they also want to know a bit about you. Are you a good tenant. And make sure that everything is as in the ad: Is it furnished like shown in the photos? Pings as stated or did they add the public hallway etc. (6 ping, rounded up… they’re real basterds like that wasting your time).
Nice apartments get lots of interest. They probably can get that much for it. But maybe you can convince them you are the right one and even get the price down a little bit…

Thanks!

Teashit did actually have some good ads…
Will try Kojiji too.

My search through the drab gargantuan rubble heap called Taipei will continue and I will emerge victorious.

[quote=“cyberguppy”]Thanks!

Teashit did actually have some good ads…
Will try Kojiji too.

My search through the drab gargantuan rubble heap called Taipei will continue and I will emerge victorious.[/quote]

Eh, wasn’t there like a scam group working the Tealit ads? Just for the general ambiance there, I’d avoid.

TMM is the way to go, as 1. it is tested 2. if there is a problem, you have someone to do the fighting for you

Or a really good house agent, which is a blessing, not so rare actually.

[quote=“darth_guy”]591, and qijiji (kijiji).

Sometimes photos are touched up or nr. of pings inflated. We had that a few times.[/quote]

citynet.com.tw/
happyrent.rakuya.com.tw/

also pretty useful. I like Rakuya’s map, it has thumbnails under with a pic and ping sizes.

[quote=“cyberguppy”]After trying a variety of websites, I’m still struggling to find a place to rent in Taipei.

Which of these would you rate are good ways to find rental accommodation? Any others?

  1. 591 - prices seem a bit ridiculous though. Lots of bargaining needed, time wasted when seeing the place. Misrepresentation,crappy photos.
  2. Forumosa ads - I get no responses
  3. Taiwanese - seems like prices are way to high
  4. House agents - have to find them first, end up paying higher prices for commisions
  5. Tealit - is it just me or no one replies to the “tealit email addresses” I send to?
  6. Taipei FB buy and sell - a few choices only
  7. Airbnb - expensive

Are there better ways? I’m looking for house shares or my own place… just struggling to find them online properly for evaluation.

How do you guys hunt for decent deals?[/quote]

prices in taipei are ridiculous as it is.

there is also the option of walking through neighborhoods and looking for banners that advertise a place for rent. but you need a chinese speaking person for that.

Tsui Mama seemed to have a lot of weird rooftop places in out of the way places for pretty good rates. I actually really liked the rooftop apartment I found off this site (pretty cheap, huge balcony, pretty convenient to whatever amenities), but I had to move once my wife and I started having kids.

The last two apartments I’ve lived in I found on 591, but both times it took a while. The problem with 591 is that anything that is semi-decent at a reasonable price gets snapped up pretty quickly. If you’re lucky enough to make an appointment, you pretty much have to sign right there and there’s not much leeway for bargaining. If you hem and haw, they’ll just rent it out to one of the other eight people who are going to look at it that day. Although I did notice that we had a bit more leverage once we were looking for places that were more than 20k/month.

I did run into more than one xenophobic asshole on 591. One guy refused to rent to foreigners but was willing to consider it only because I was married and had a newborn. Another time, my wife made an appointment with a landlady, we took a look at an apartment that we liked, signed a contract, paid a deposit, but once her husband found out that I was a foreigner, they refused to rent it to us (yeah, we got the deposit back, but still we were both pissed.)

On 591, there’s a way to order search results by date posted. Check the site a couple of times a day, looking at the neighborhoods you’re interested in. Anything that’s been up there for more than two weeks probably has incredibly ludicrous dealbreakers (way too much noise, much smaller in person, etc.)

Would it have been worth it to sue?