OK, so is it true that Taiwanese women will ‘give more’ to Foreign boyfriends than native boyfriends? Will Taiwanese women treat foreign boyfriends better? More patience? More motivation? Less attitude, and better sex?
Man, I’d like to know if this is just something only I observed, or if its more common…
You will probably have to ask Taiwanese women this question.
However, I have heard Taiwanese women say that they act differently, sexually, with foreign boyfriends for two reasons:
They feel that they must be more sexually liberal in order to retain the foreign boyfriend; and
They feel that they have no need to feel any shame for acting more sexually liberated with foreign men.
I couldn’t tell you whether either of these are true. [/quote]
Yes. I think Tigerman is on track. I’d go further with his second point and say that, sexually, Taiwanese girls do nothing more than adopt what they percieve to be current Western mores.
However, as to your other point, where it seems as though you are suggesting Taiwanese women have an almost slave-like devotion to their foreign partners, I would counter and say that these relationships seem extraordinary because of the marked difference in the way in which Taiwanese women and Western allow themselves to be equal.
Taiwanese women, I think, are more traditional than Western women, and see themselves in a different light, as indivisibly part of a couple rather than as an individual cohabitating with another individual.
For instance, my wife supports me, some would say like a mother, but make no mistake there is a definite sense of a shared life together. We have just taken different roles. She is by no means my slave. She treats me quite fairly, as I do her. She is, though, more forgiving than anyone else I had ever dated. She is more patient than anyone I have ever known. She is kinder than anyone I have ever met. Those are the reasons, my friend, why we are married today. If if I had not learned to be more like her, we’d surely be divorced.
Instead of smashing me over the head with arguments, she has shown me gently over the last four years that kindness, forgiveness, and patience are indeed virtues.
We are happy. Others are too. Should you not see that the relationships you observe and seemingly abhor have not a thing to do with you?
And why are you constantly attempting to provoke arguments with Western males?
I agree with Tigerman that you need to ask Taiwanese women this question for only they can say whether they treat foreigners in a different way than they treat the native men.
However, I don’t think I agree that sexually speaking Taiwanese women are more repressed acting unless they are with foreigners. I am sure most of you remember that woman whose apartment was secretly tape while she was having sex with her lover, also a Taiwanese fellow, I believe. I didn’t see the tapes but I heard things got very hot and heavy between them. Thus, I don’t see how we can make broad generalizations about the sexual behavior of Taiwanese women.
Many guys in the states can tell you stories about gals who just lay there until the “deed” is done, and I have heard woman talk disparagingly about some western guys performance in the sack. ( I assume that incompatiblity in the bedroom plays at least some part in the high divorce rate in places like the states).
Thus, I guess the only thing we can say with any degree of certainty is that some Taiwanese gals are more sexually free with their foreign boyfriends while I am certain that some Taiwanese ladies act in the same manner with the Taiwanese guys.
“What a man wants is a woman who’s a lady in public and a whore in the bedroom.”
I think women are going to be women wherever you are…Taiwanese women act the opposite of many outwardly-loose-but-conservative-in-bed Western women. That is, the ones that are quiet and inhibited let their inhibitions loose when they reach the freedom of the bedroom. The women that dress and act ‘slutty’ (sorry for this word, but it’s the best one I can think of) in public, are often dead fish in the sack. Taiwanese girls tend to be very shy, and very publicly repressed in their sexuality, so I think that sort of dynamic is going on.
I’ve just finished up with a woman (catch my thread "wassup with this girl…) who was a minx in the bed - best sex of my life, and very short on charisma outside my bedroom.
It’s strange, and vastly frustrating.
Since I haven’t found anyone to fill her void, so to speak, I still find myself daydreaming about our time spent in the sack. Pray god someone comes along who’s got the prowess, and some extra added personality to go with it, soon…
I think sex in Taiwan is a taboo topic. People don’t talk about it or joke about it like those of us familiar with Western culture.
But from my observation of Tong Ju alley on various college campuses and stories of Xiao Lao Po from various acquaintances. Not to mention the growing population on Taiwan, people are still having sex. And their moral compass is as screw up as they are in the West
But to answer question originally posted. I believe if you
I believe Taiwanese women treat foreigners differently for sure. They may have certain expectations drawn up from movies and whatnot. As we have discussed before about ignorance- they believe Americans are White, they believe Asian Americans are Asians, etc etc. — this can certaintly extend to relationships.
There have been a lot more movies of sexual freedom in American films than in Taiwanese films. It might be a sense of overall freedom they feel when they date a foreign looking person – well in bed as well.
I’ve been away for a while and some of you don’t know me, so hopefully this open post won’t offend too many folks.
The few Taiwanese girlfriends I’ve been with have been, on average, the horn–er, most passionate–girlfriends I’ve ever had. Still, they also seem to be less worried about the quality of physical intimacy, and more focused on the emotional intimacy.
In the past, I’d sometimes feel like an American girlfriend had a scorecard out, and that I was being rated on several different criteria. “Let’s see. Foreplay…X points. Stamina…X points. Oral technique…X points.”
When I was a bachelor, I spent time with all kinds of Taiwanese girls, as different from one another as chalk and cheese.
Some were delightfully wild and willing, always tremendously eager to please and enthusiastic about doing anything anywhere anytime that I might care to suggest.
Others were maddeningly shy, prudish, sexually repressed, and scared to death of letting go and enjoying physical intimacy as nature meant it to be enjoyed. They evidently believed that sex was primarily an instrument of barter to give reward for benefits received, and were generally not much more fun to be in bed or clasped with than a dead fish.
Needless to say, the former were far more likely to become close companions and figure significantly in my life.
Apart from these two extremes, there were, of course, many others who displayed varying characteristics and attitudes somewhere in between (including the one I ended up marrying).
[quote=“Tomas”] In the past, I’d sometimes feel like an American girlfriend had a scorecard out, and that I was being rated on several different criteria. “Let’s see. Foreplay…X points. Stamina…X points. Oral technique…X points.”
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I’ve always had a hunch that many American women were this way, whereas Taiwanese women just focus more on the sex than filling out some scorecard. Probably from doing all those Cosmo magazine quizzes.
Perhaps the better treatment stems from, well, because they are treated better in the first place. I don’t think Western men realize some of the bullshit and headaches Taiwanese boyfriends and husbands inflict.
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My Taiwanese girlfriends have been, on average, the horn–er, most passionate–girlfriends I’ve ever had. .[/quote]
Tomas,
I still think it depends on the woman. I don’t think we can generalize (not saying you were doing that ) when we talk about women anywhere. Some are wild, some mild. Congratulations on your great luck so far.