What advertising says about culture

I’m sure a lot of people say this, and it’s not nearly as true as they/I claim, but I honestly don’t think advertising has very much effect on me at all. Most of my spending I budget for quite specifically, including frivolous spending (which usually takes the form of my wife buying street food). We don’t even have a TV in our apartment.

The other day, I happened to pick up one of those women’s magazines like Cleo or Cosmo. I knew the articles were vacuous, but I seem to remember them as being longer when I was younger. I put the magazine down after the first article because finding articles (as retarded as they were) between all the advertising was a major feat. The magazine was seemingly 90% advertising.

Now wait a minute. I recently saw a US network and there was a commercial for tablets in the ad break. First they guy explained why NICOEX or whatever made him stop smoking and then there were veritable 5 minutes of bla bla saying there may be sideeffects when the moon is full, ask your doctor before driving or don’t take it when pregnat or if you plan to get pregnant or if you plan to shake the hands of a woman who may get a psychological adverse reaction to someone thinking about quitting smoking… bla bla can effect stealig motor vehicles… bla bla bla

I was quite surprised the stuff was so long. In Krautonia we just say: “Ask your local physician or pharmacist.”

[Damned, now I have proven again Germans don’t have a sense of humor]

What does this say about American culture…(redundant question)

Actually that was quite witty. :bravo:

Obsessed with sex and sexual performance, which is used as a metric for human value. Like most secular Western cultures.

The culture is sexually obsessed, but the lads have problems getting lil johnny to come out and play?
Also, perhaps, shows a propensity for quick pharmaceutical fixes (steroids etc being further indications)?

Yes, good point. A rejection of delayed gratification, a perpetuation of the infantile ‘Want it now!’ impulse.

You have to advertise knob medicine in the YooEssAy? :laughing:

I don’t think companies are allowed to advertise prescrition meds, in the YooKay. You see back stuff, OTC pain pills, Feminax where a girl gets to twang her man out the window on a spring chair trebuchet ‘If only getting rid of all pain was as easy as Feminax!’.

American Elle and stuff like that is the worst - photos of starved, drug-addled, air-brushed children selling clothes to middle-aged women, interspersed with articles like ‘How to have it all!’ and ads for brand name anti-depressants and HRT, and juvederm and Botox.

I just hope that girls are sophisticated enough to extract the fun from those mags and ignore the insidious messages of you need to be genetically and behaviourally thinner and taller than 99.5% of women, your natural skin and hair is ugly and needs to be plucked, oiled, injected with muscle-freezing botulins and tinted with the intensity and organisation of a military campaign. You need to replace all your clothes with new clothes that cost half your take-home pay (which is never enough) twice a year. On top of this, you need to be an entrepreneur, a mother, a graduate, a charity worker, a patron of the arts and an environmentalist who plays team sports and does pilates. You go on two or three holidays in other continents per year. Your man should look like a Calvin Klein model, and if he’s crap in bed, it’s because you haven’t trained him properly, like the article says. And when you finally end up mentally ill you can flick through the ads and take your choice of SSRIs with the pics of the slightly fatter, older models who demonstrate that even though you are a failure, you can still sit in a rowing boat wearing white linen clothes and smile again. Then you can go to the twenty pages or so at the back and book your eye lift and tit job so you can get back in the game.

Or you can just shrug and say that women are not stupid, and can enjoy eyeshadow tips without buying the whole farm, but this stuff is pretty insidious in our cultures, nowadays. Taiwanese media is no better. I don’t know. Am i being OTT?

Society is horrid, and women do this to themselves.

Loved the whole post, but that bit in particular.

I’d say you hit the nail on the head! :notworthy:

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OK. NOW you’re over the top. As penance, sing ten verses of, “Always Look on the Bright Side of Life” and don’t forget the whistling!

I consider it part of my job, as a parent, to show my girls how silly these magazines and commercials are. They should be running that Dove Evolution video (below) as Public Service for every stupid commercial about how women need to be model-like to get Prince Charming.

The parody is good as well.

My hate for bad advertising rivals my hate for mosquitos in the bedroom.

So I asked Gemini this:

Nobody like advertising, it’s highly annoying, why then is advertising everywhere, how does annyoing advertising help companies sell their products and not keeping customers away?

Great question — it’s one of the genuine paradoxes of modern capitalism. Here’s why annoying advertising persists and actually works, even when people hate it:

It doesn’t need you to like it — just remember it

The primary goal of most advertising isn’t to make you feel good. It’s to make a brand top of mind when you’re ready to buy. Repetitive, even irritating ads lodge in memory far better than pleasant ones you glance past. The jingle you can’t get out of your head is doing exactly what it was designed to do.

The “mere exposure effect”

Psychological research consistently shows that the more you’re exposed to something — even if you consciously dislike it — the more familiar and trustworthy it feels. Familiarity breeds a kind of unconscious comfort. You might groan at an ad, but later choose that brand on a shelf without knowing why.

It’s a volume game, not a relationship game

Most advertising isn’t trying to win you over personally. It’s playing statistics across millions of people. If 95% of viewers find an ad annoying but 5% convert, that’s often a massive profit. Your annoyance is essentially collateral damage they’re willing to accept.

Attention is the real currency

In a crowded media landscape, even negative attention beats being ignored. An ad that provokes irritation has still captured your focus for 15–30 seconds, which is the whole point. The alternative — being invisible — is far worse for a brand.

Companies often can’t measure the damage

It’s very hard to track customers who were repelled by advertising. You can measure clicks and conversions; you can’t easily count the people who quietly decided never to buy from you. So the negative side of the equation is largely invisible to marketers.

Advertising works on other people, not you

People consistently believe they are personally immune to advertising while everyone else is influenced by it. This is called the third-person effect. In reality, we’re all affected — just rarely in the obvious, conscious way we imagine. The influence is subtle and cumulative.

The race-to-the-bottom dynamic

Even if a company wanted to advertise less, competitive pressure often forces their hand. If your rival is running aggressive ads and you go quiet, you lose market share. So the whole industry is somewhat trapped in an arms race of noise.

The short answer: annoying advertising survives because it works well enough, its costs are hard to measure, and the psychology of human memory rewards repetition over pleasantness. It’s not that companies don’t care about your experience — it’s that your annoyance simply doesn’t hurt them as much as silence would.

Why are there no Like/Dislike options for advertisements, on social media for example, which could give advertisers a better idea of how ads are received, and encourage them to make better and less annoying ones. Also, if there would be an option “I don’t want to see this type of ad” advertising agents could actually show ads that are meant for the right person. It feels like there is a lot of room for improvement of the user experience.

You’re touching on something that sounds obviously sensible — and yet the reality is more complicated, and a bit cynical. Here’s why this “obvious improvement” hasn’t happened at scale:

Some of it actually already exists — and gets ignored

Meta, YouTube, and TikTok already offer “hide this ad,” “why am I seeing this,” and interest-based opt-outs. YouTube has had a thumbs down on ads for years. The problem? Platforms systematically ignore or suppress that data because acting on it conflicts with their revenue model. You’ve probably noticed that hiding an ad type rarely stops similar ads from reappearing.

The fundamental conflict of interest

Here’s the core tension: social media platforms’ customers are advertisers, not users. You are the product being sold. A genuine dislike system that forced advertisers to make less annoying ads would:

  • Reduce the pool of ads platforms can show you
  • Give advertisers leverage to demand lower prices for “low-rated” slots
  • Potentially shrink ad revenue significantly

Platforms have zero financial incentive to empower users against advertisers. Their entire business model depends on selling access to your attention, not protecting it.

Advertisers don’t actually want honest feedback

This sounds counterintuitive, but most large advertisers prefer reach over quality signals. A robust dislike system would expose how poorly received most ads are, creating uncomfortable conversations with clients, boards, and shareholders. The advertising industry has survived for decades on vague metrics like “impressions” and “brand awareness” precisely because they’re hard to challenge.

Negative feedback loops would shrink the ad market

If users could effectively filter out ad categories — “no car ads,” “no gambling,” “no supplements” — entire advertising verticals would collapse. Platforms would lose billions. So the “I don’t want this type of ad” tool is deliberately made clunky, buried in menus, and largely ineffective as a feature of design, not oversight.

The illusion of control is more valuable than real control

Platforms offer just enough customization to make users feel heard — without actually giving them meaningful power. It’s a calculated UX decision. Real control would undermine the system.

Why hasn’t regulation forced this?

Honestly, this is where the gap is most glaring. Regulators have focused on data privacy (GDPR, etc.) but largely ignored ad quality and user agency. The advertising lobby is powerful, and the argument that “users can just scroll past” has been surprisingly effective at keeping pressure off.

So you’re right — there is massive room for improvement

A genuinely user-empowering ad system would:

  • Show you only ads in categories you’ve permitted
  • Let you rate ads with real consequences for repeat offenders
  • Reward advertisers whose ads users actually engage with positively
  • Cap how many times a single ad can reach the same person

This would likely produce better, more creative advertising and happier users. But it would also mean less total ad revenue in the short term — and that’s the wall every good idea runs into. The platforms know what’s possible. They’ve just decided it’s not in their interest to build it.

The irony is that a genuinely user-friendly ad system might actually build more trust and long-term engagement. But “long-term” is a hard sell when quarterly earnings are on the line.

Advertising to me is one of the signs of an economic model that is not sustainable and in the interest of humanity. The companies with the biggest advertising budget are usually those that produce things that are unhealthy, and bad for the environment, things that no one needs to live a healthy and fulfilled life.

Like it says above, we, the users are the products social media platforms try to sell. It’s a sick world we live in. :enraged_face:

I enjoy watching Gruen, an Australian show that focuses on advertising. Whether or not you agree with the panel, I think htey bring up points worth considering.

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That translation is nonsense.

It says ‘Huge moments everyday in McDonalds’. Second phrase is the same just without the word ‘everyday’.

Вот что я люблю | I’m lovin’ it
Весело и вкусно — Макдоналдс! | Fun and delicious - McDonald’s!

I don’t mind these creative ads at all. I’d probably give them Like or a Thumb up. The Bolt ads I see on Youtube, however, horribly annoying. Not going to consider using Bolt for that reason alone.