# What are your thoughts on No Swimming in Taiwan?

**URL:** <https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921>\
**Category:** Taiwan Travel\
**Tags:** swimming\
**Created:** [July 14, 2018, 7:02am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921 "2018-07-14T07:02:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Gain)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/21 "2018-07-16T17:30:22Z")

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> [@SuiGeneris](#):
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> However, younger generatiins are required to learn how to swim starting in early elementary school. 2nd grade I believe.

Either I’m not part of the younger generations (which I am) or you were told wrong. This is not true.

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**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 11:18pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/22 "2018-07-16T23:18:03Z")

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Yeah he’s probably basing it off Taipei city schools.

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**Author:** ![Rocket](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/rocket/32/160144_2.png) [@Rocket](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Rocket)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/23 "2018-07-17T03:03:47Z")

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> [@Gain](#):
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> > [@SuiGeneris](#):
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> > However, younger generatiins are required to learn how to swim starting in early elementary school. 2nd grade I believe.
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> Either I’m not part of the younger generations (which I am) or you were told wrong. This is not true.

Kids learn to swim at school starting in Elementary.

Maybe you ain’t as young as you think.

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**Author:** ![Belgian\_Pie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Belgian\_Pie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Belgian_Pie)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:58am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/24 "2018-07-17T03:58:30Z")

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It’s the opposite to the ‘No Fishing’ sign, no one gives a shit.

Anyways, 52 years ago we had weekly swimming classes at elementary school, at age 7 I got the 25m, age 8 the 50m badge, at age 9 I got the half hour swimming badge.

Taiwan being an island has been really retarded when it came to swimming, luckily it’s changing.

Sitting in a pool of water in a mountain creek is not swimming.

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**Author:** ![Aikaili](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/aikaili/32/100376_2.png) [@Aikaili](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Aikaili)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/25 "2018-07-17T04:07:20Z")

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I’m afraid of swimming in polluted water and that is what I see at Kenting. Penghu has some really pretty beaches. [https://vitalpenghu.wordpress.com/beaches/](https://vitalpenghu.wordpress.com/beaches/)

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**Author:** ![do\_japan](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@do\_japan](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/do_japan)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:33am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/26 "2018-07-17T04:33:41Z")

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> It’s the opposite to the ‘No Fishing’ sign, no one gives a shit.

No one gives a shit about no swimming signs or no fishing signs?

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**Author:** ![Belgian\_Pie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Belgian\_Pie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Belgian_Pie)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/27 "2018-07-17T04:38:40Z")

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> [@do\_japan](#):
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> No one gives a shit about no swimming signs or no fishing signs?

No fishing!

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**Author:** ![the\_bear](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/the_bear/32/192391_2.png) [@the\_bear](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/the_bear)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:46am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/28 "2018-07-17T05:46:08Z")

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Well at least they stopped dynamiting.

#progress

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**Author:** ![Gain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Gain)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 7:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/29 "2018-07-17T07:38:55Z")

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> [@Rocket](#):
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> Kids learn to swim at school starting in Elementary.

Since when?

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**Author:** ![Rocket](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/rocket/32/160144_2.png) [@Rocket](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Rocket)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 7:43am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/30 "2018-07-17T07:43:19Z")

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> [@Gain](#):
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> > [@Rocket](#):
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> > Kids learn to swim at school starting in Elementary.
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> Since when?

How the fuck would I know??

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**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 8:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/31 "2018-07-17T08:23:24Z")

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They don’t have swimming classes in our local school in xinbei, at least for the first few grades!

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**Author:** ![Rocket](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/rocket/32/160144_2.png) [@Rocket](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Rocket)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 8:30am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/32 "2018-07-17T08:30:42Z")

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> [@Brianjones](#):
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> They don’t have swimming classes in our local school in xinbei, at least for the first few grades!

You might have to wait until you’re in Grade 3 or 4, little fella.

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**Author:** ![JPMichaels1](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@JPMichaels1](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/JPMichaels1)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 5:53am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/33 "2018-07-20T05:53:22Z")

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> [@SuiGeneris](#):
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> However, younger generatiins are required to learn how to swim starting in early elementary school. 2nd grade I believe.

No they don’t. And as I have a child that was in Grade 2 just 2 years ago I’m positive that they don’t. Some schools that have access to pools might have this however it is not something that is across the board with every school across the island.

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**Author:** ![Belgian\_Pie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Belgian\_Pie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Belgian_Pie)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 6:05am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/34 "2018-07-20T06:05:59Z")

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Sanxia just built a new sports center, including swimming pool I heard. Probably swimming classes will be easy now as it’s municipal.

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**Author:** ![shiadoa](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/shiadoa/32/10295_2.png) [@shiadoa](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/shiadoa)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/35 "2018-07-23T18:41:06Z")

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He he

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**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 1:02am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/36 "2018-07-24T01:02:25Z")

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Is it already open? Where is it?

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**Author:** ![marasan](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marasan/32/181721_2.png) [@marasan](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/marasan)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 1:30am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/37 "2018-07-24T01:30:57Z")

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> [@Belgian\_Pie](#):
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> Probably swimming classes will be easy now as it’s municipal.

I imagine that many instructors are at least halfway decent and can teach basic swimming so that your kid is safe. But after that, I would be very picky about the instructor you choose because many are just poor or very, very average swimmers. I have been shocked more than once seeing some incredibly bad form from an instructor. You can learn some bad habits that are very difficult to fix. Swimming is somewhat unique in that way.

At a certain stage, you might want an instructor who has actually done some competitive swimming. Real swimming (real freestyle, real breaststroke) is counterintuitive and unnatural in many ways. Check out the high elbow, minimal use of legs, even the nice sound on entry of this great long-distance swimmer.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/5WuRs66Htlo/maxresdefault.jpg "06 Cassie Patten") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WuRs66Htlo)

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**Author:** ![lostinasia](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/lostinasia/32/60703_2.png) [@lostinasia](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/lostinasia)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/38 "2018-07-24T02:33:32Z")

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Interesting - it looks like she’s doing a bit of an S-pull (rather than straight back); that’s something I learned decades ago, but I gather it’s fallen out of favour.

Every so often I’ll read things about improving my stroke: things like that straight pull, or doing a dolphin kick off the wall. Maybe I’m just not determined enough, but I’ll try those and it’ll mess up my stroke and I’ll give up and go back to what I’ve always done.

I’m curious _how_ good stroke technique is taught. I don’t remember it happening to me; I just remember my coach, in the first year on a swim team, telling me I already had good freestyle. I assume the years on the team improved things somewhat, but the original form came from somewhere else, and I don’t know where.

The flip turns in the video made me wonder what my turns look like these days. My stroke still “feels” good, so I’m probably at least OK for the swimming; but I wasn’t that good at flip turns back when I was on a team, and now it’s several decades later.

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**Author:** ![marasan](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marasan/32/181721_2.png) [@marasan](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/marasan)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/39 "2018-07-24T02:41:53Z")

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> [@lostinasia](#):
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> Interesting - it looks like she’s doing a bit of an S-pull (rather than straight back); that’s something I learned decades ago, but I gather it’s fallen out of favour.

Yes, the S pull is out now. She’s doing a high elbow (early vertical forearm). The idea is to start pulling back on the water as soon as possible. She has what would be considered an extreme EVF. Most of us normal folks go down a bit straight arm before getting the high elbow. And most of us have one arm that’s much better than the other.

Check out Sun Yang (1500m world record holder) and all others employing the extreme EVF.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-icqAiWOlPg/maxresdefault.jpg "Sun Yang - underwater shot (Final 1500M freestyle at Incheon - Asian Games)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-icqAiWOlPg)

I think I finally have the flip turn. It’s hard here in Taiwan because you’re often sharing the lane with others, but I think I finally do have it down. It’s not the classic flip turn (pushing off while on your back and doing a full turn onto your stomach), but it’s not too far from that (I go a little to my side right from the get-go, but some athletes do that too, though).

Good luck with the form. There’s always work to do and that’s actually what I like about swimming.

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**Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 3:27am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-no-swimming-in-taiwan/170921/40 "2018-07-24T03:27:10Z")

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has anyone heard about this news? [https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3488608](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3488608)  
it seems clear, here if they let anyone swim, there has to be lifeguard watching them, otherwise case like this will happen.

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