# What do Taiwanese people mean when they describe food as "Q"?

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**Created:** [December 19, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-do-taiwanese-people-mean-when-they-describe-food-as-q/80987 "2013-12-19T00:38:05Z")\
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Hi,

I have come across this many times however I have always forgotten to ask about it. Today I saw it on the news once again.

I will often hear Taiwanese people describe some foods as being “very Q”, having a “Q feeling” or other descriptors all using this Q. They will also use the Roman letter Q in written texts and not a Chinese character.

Does anyone know what it means? Does it come from Taiwanese?

Thanks

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 12:42am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-do-taiwanese-people-mean-when-they-describe-food-as-q/80987/2 "2013-12-19T00:42:43Z")

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It means the chewy texture which they like very much and which most westerners don’t really like.

A good example are ‘Mua JI’ sticky rice cakes formed from pounding rice into a rubbery mass.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-do-taiwanese-people-mean-when-they-describe-food-as-q/80987/3 "2013-12-19T00:54:50Z")

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> [@Milkybar\_Kid](#):
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> Does it come from Taiwanese?

Yes. There’s another thread discussing English that has been appropriated in Taiwan that explains this and “vs” among others.

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ADMIN’S NOTE:

> [@Taiwanese misappropriating English words/letters/initials](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwanese-misappropriating-english-words-letters-initials/35001/9):
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> Chris, that’s a great bit of information. I always suspected that there was a character for “QQ”, and looking up 糗 in the MOE online dictionary, it does give “黏在一起” (stick together) as a definition. In the online Taiwanese-Mandarin dictionary 台文華文線頂辭典, it gives 糗 as being pronounced “khiu” (or Q), and has a definitions ranging from elastic (彈), to sticky (黏), to soft (綿).

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 12:56am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-do-taiwanese-people-mean-when-they-describe-food-as-q/80987/4 "2013-12-19T00:56:33Z")

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Now we have a QQPasta in the neighborhood …😒

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-do-taiwanese-people-mean-when-they-describe-food-as-q/80987/5 "2013-12-19T01:50:20Z")

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> [@headhonchoII](#):
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> It means the chewy texture which they like very much and which most westerners don’t really like.
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> A good example are ‘Mua JI’ sticky rice cakes formed from pounding rice into a rubbery mass.

Thank you. I have eaten those “Mua Ji” stick rice cakes that you refer to and actually I didn’t think they were too bad. 🙂 I have eaten worse.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-do-taiwanese-people-mean-when-they-describe-food-as-q/80987/6 "2013-12-19T02:53:39Z")

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So QQPasta is very, double sticky Italian style noodles?:lol:

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-do-taiwanese-people-mean-when-they-describe-food-as-q/80987/7 "2013-12-19T02:55:03Z")

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> [@Belgian Pie](#):
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> Now we have a QQPasta in the neighborhood …😒

Now if only they could actually learn to cook it al dente (QQ)!

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 2:57am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-do-taiwanese-people-mean-when-they-describe-food-as-q/80987/8 "2013-12-19T02:57:52Z")

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Not necessarily “chewy” but something like “soft to the bite without being mush either.”

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Here are a couple of articles discussing it:  
[http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2252](http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2252)  
[http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/phorum/read.php?1,65877,66271](http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/phorum/read.php?1,65877,66271)

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 3:45am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-do-taiwanese-people-mean-when-they-describe-food-as-q/80987/10 "2013-12-19T03:45:33Z")

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QQ can also refer to crying right?

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No, that’s more like Koo, not Q (=Kyu)

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 6:21am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-do-taiwanese-people-mean-when-they-describe-food-as-q/80987/12 "2013-12-19T06:21:40Z")

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> [@hs172](#):
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> QQ can also refer to crying right?

only because QQ looks like tearful eyes.

Q comes from the Taiwanese holo word khiū. MOE has ordered it to be written as [zdic.net/z/aa/kx/296A8.htm](http://www.zdic.net/z/aa/kx/296A8.htm), but that’s cause they are brain dead. The much more likely candidates are 䊆, 糗 or 䵕

link are provided for a character not accepted by this forum, since it is not yet unicode CJK ext-C or above compatible.

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> [@Tempo Gain](#):
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> Not necessarily “chewy” but something like “soft to the bite without being mush either.”

Well lets put it as a range of chewiness from not mushy to rubbery.

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> [@headhonchoII](#):
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> > [@Tempo Gain](#):
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> > Not necessarily “chewy” but something like “soft to the bite without being mush either.”
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> Well lets put it as a range of chewiness from not mushy to rubbery.

good muâ-tsî are not supposed to be rubbery… that sounds like it is been sitting out for a long time.

from the Hanji choices 䊆, 糗 and 䵕, they all describe rice or grain being made into powder form. It’s likely the word started out to describe muâ-tsî itself.

Al dente would fit under the khiū description, but the word describe a wide range of chewiness.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 7:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-do-taiwanese-people-mean-when-they-describe-food-as-q/80987/15 "2013-12-19T07:38:07Z")

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Al dente cooked pasta in Taiwan? QQ … to cry for.

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sorry to revisit this really old thread, but there was a NYT article about this phenomenon that got me thinking about it again.

> **[In Italy, ‘Al Dente’ Is Prized. In Taiwan, It’s All About Food That’s ‘Q.’...](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/04/world/asia/taiwan-food-q-texture.html?_ga=2.95332252.1006467034.1543903473-1558182369.1541569144)**
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> In Taiwan, “Q” texture refers to cuisine that is “springy, soft, elastic,” usually found in foods with some kind of starch like noodles or tapioca pearls.

I now believe that Q in Taigi originated from khiû (written as 虯 or 鬈), which is used to describe curly hair. Its meaning got extended to describe food with a chewing yet soft texture because of how curly hair is soft to touch but bounces back in a springy way.

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QQ! Yeah!

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No exAct English perhaps but I would say kinda sorta al dente

Oops mentioned above already

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> [@tommy525](#):
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> kinda sorta al dente

Al dente in Taiwan is like a mush! If you serve al dente pasta they complain that it’s under-cooked!

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It’s nothing like al dente.

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