Plenty has been said enough about the Taiwanese perception of Taiwanese women who date white foreigner men - most of them hostile perceptions - but what about the perception of a Taiwanese man who dates a white woman?
Is it along the lines of, “That’s really odd or strange?” After all, it’s extremely rare, and the vast majority of Asian/white couples are a white man and an Asian woman, not the other way around.
FAIK< there is rarely any problem from their peers if a TW man wants to date a western woman.
I’ve asked a few people this including my wife (who is TWese) and the general consensus is the guy has to be pretty cool. Not ‘cool’ in a douchey popped-collar way or in a Fonzie way but a guy with a good, likable personality.
If you frequent PTT, the most hilarious double standard is this one:
When Taiwanese women date non-Asian men, the women are whores and the men who date them are losers who couldn’t get women in their own countries.
When Taiwanese men date non-Asian women, the women are goddesses and the men who date them are players with mad game.
Well Taiwanese people are pretty superstitious so I bet they think that kind of men actually exist.
i’m dating a french girl… i’m taiwanese…
whats wrong with it?
i grew up aboard so i guess my opinions are skewed
[quote=“drummwill”]I’m dating a french girl… I’m taiwanese…
whats wrong with it?
i grew up aboard so i guess my opinions are skewed[/quote]
Aboard what?
[quote=“drummwill”]I’m dating a french girl… I’m taiwanese…
whats wrong with it?
[/quote]
A sore tongue? 
I don’t feel like a goddess but my TW boyfriend sure is cool 
actually I know more mixed coupled where the girl is a westerner. They usually meet abroad though and move to Taiwan later, after marrying or when engaged. I’m even joking that I made a mistake in coming to Taiwan to find a Taiwanese guy, as apparently it’s easier in Europe and most of the guys are doctors
I think that it’s true that ppl are much nicer about it, they keep it calm even when I tell them we are living together. But I bear some of my foreign girl friends have hard time with in-laws accepting them. But not often.
As far as I am concerned, western males have more patient with poor English ability of Taiwanese girls. On the contrary, most Taiwanese males are harder to make friends from foreign countries because of their English ability averagely. I guess this is a huge difficulty to overcome. Not to mention the cultural differences, sensor of humor, … etc. For Taiwanese, to hang out with a foreign rare female is an impossible mission so probably many Taiwanese would admire him and view him as winner. Besides, due to the stress from China. some people think that to marry someone who is from another country is also a good chance to run away from this place.
That’s not sexy, to be honest.
“I love you not for who you are, but for where you make me a citizen when I’m with you.”
That’s not sexy, to be honest.[/quote]
Maybe not you, but I do hear this kind of thought from Taiwanese. It might not be caused by the only reason, political stability described above, but also for instance, a country with greater economic power, more mature political system, better welfare program and less work overtime…
As a Taiwanese, IMHO, it doesn’t mean no love. But that’s a plus, advantage for westerners to attract some local women. Foreigners get higher chance to win their hearts.
Honestly, I think that the guy must be a pretty cool dude.
That’s not sexy, to be honest.[/quote]
Maybe not you, but I do hear this kind of thought from Taiwanese. It might not be caused by the only reason, political stability described above, but also for instance, a country with greater economic power, more mature political system, better welfare program and less work overtime…[/quote]
But if, as a ‘white’ woman, I subscribe to that opinion, why would I marry a Taiwanese guy and not from a country that has greater blah blah than mine? It’s culturally acceptable for men to do that where I’m from, but it’s really not for women to ‘rescue marry’ some poor desperate loser who’s trying to escape his country and do the sugar mama passport thing. Less social status than staying single!
Better just to meet someone, fall in love, maybe get married, and not think about what dickheads think about his/her race, eh?
But if, as a ‘white’ woman, I subscribe to that opinion, why would I marry a Taiwanese guy and not from a country that has greater blah blah than mine? It’s culturally acceptable for men to do that where I’m from, but it’s really not for women to ‘rescue marry’ some poor desperate loser who’s trying to escape his country and do the sugar mama passport thing. Less social status than staying single!
Better just to meet someone, fall in love, maybe get married, and not think about what dickheads think about his/her race, eh?[/quote]
I’d like to say sorry first. English is not my native language, probably what I said made your misunderstood. I didn’t mean that all Taiwanese fall in love with foreigners are intended for escaping from Taiwan. Just tell you guys what I heard from some Taiwanese, it doesn’t apply to all. Furthermore, for that kinds of people who think western countries are better, they do have lower requirements for the people from west than locals and are more willing to start a relationship.
No big deal. I wasn’t calling you a ‘dickhead’, in case you were unsure of my meaning. 
I just meant that no-one likes to feel used for their passport and that people who see this as a consideration are pathetic as is anyone who gets what they want by fucking their way into it.
[quote=“Ermintrude”]No big deal. I wasn’t calling you a ‘dickhead’, in case you were unsure of my meaning.
I just meant that no-one likes to feel used for their passport and that people who see this as a consideration are pathetic as is anyone who gets what they want by fucking their way into it.[/quote]
That’s alright. But I did think “Better just to meet someone, fall in love, maybe get married, and not think about what dickheads think about his/her race, eh?” is a suggest for me You’re absolutely right, no one likes to be used.
I’m a heavy user of PTT forum which has 1,000 K Taiwan users registered and read posts there daily. There are average 100 K users online. It goes without saying, the discussion there can be on behalf of partial Taiwanese. As I said, I just type what I saw which aren’t totally my opinions.
In Taiwan, many people who are looking someone for date or marriage will have a list of requirements in their minds. It depends on each people. The major requirements most people might consider are looking, richness, height, body, family, of course some of the opinions could be nationality and ethnicity. For some people, western country is a very big plus. So they’re eager to know foreigners and finally fall in love. I’m not sure if you understand what I’m trying to say. They do have love. But before they know each other, the nationality was really considered and probably some of the local pursuers were failed.
Yuck. Weirdos!