What is the top tax rate in Taiwan?

given the penalty is like 100USD or so, ehh. Its around the same if you do pay so it’s not a big deal to me. Plus it’s done in a way that’s pretty good overall. I think over 99% of people are covered. Medical care is pretty good, no long waits and it’s pretty cheap if you do get it. I think just under 20$ a month?

Okay, so NHI works despite of socialism because the underlying system is good. But, I’m sure we could all agree we would all be much better off if the socialism was ditched ? The efficient health care would still be there, its just that we don’t need to pay for other peoples bad habits.

As long as the cost is low enough, I don’t mind that much.

It pleasures me immensively to see you guys pay for my bad habits.

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I don’t have an issue with what you said. But I also don’t feel like it’s complete BS with people taking my money because Taiwan doesn’t have things like entirely preventable obesity related health issues just draining the system.

The important thing is that it’s fair and works. It’s not much and you get a lot from it pretty fairly with everyone. It’s not perfect but it does work well for almost anyone.

So, okay. Socialism is okay as long as it doesn’t cost you too much?

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They are city-states. Normal countries all have very high tax rate for the top bracket.

Actually, normal countries all have very high tax rate for the middle or mid-bottom bracket as well.

Wouldn’t you rather have your blood sucked by a mosquito than a vampire?

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Except as history shows, once private systems go into place prices generally skyrocket.
The CEO is beholden to the shareholders for top dollar , I think socialistic systems are needed for vital things like health care, electricity, cellular networks, water, roads, internet access, car insurance

There is an argument that it’s needed because we aren’t allowed to run pure capitalism.

Yes, but both would suck in different degrees.

Picking and choosing…
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NHI is a national compulsory health insurance system, the definition of Socualism.

So, is there a penalty for failing to pay the premiums (in Taiwan), or isn’t there?

Oh, well, if it’s not a big deal to you, that settles it! :money_mouth_face: :rainbow:

De jure residents are covered, minus those stuck in waiting periods.

Those who are merely de facto residents (though de jure residents for tax purposes) are not covered.

Which province is that?

And what is “mental health” supposed to mean? Your country has mental health! That’s so mental! :thinking:

I was going to go with Singapore has 82% of the population living in public housing (down from 87% a few decades ago), and HK has around 50% plus the world-famous “cage homes”. I’m not dissing either city, just pointing out that they’re not really the laissez-faire paradises they’re made out to be.

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I’m not wild about the compulsory part, but the idea of pooled risk is hardly socialist. After all, modern insurance was invented by those horrible imperialist capitalists, the British.

It comes down to semantics and philosophy. What do words actually mean, and what do we want them to mean?

In various languages, a corporation is… a society! :astonished:

You can’t escape it: humans are social animals.

Or you can escape it by not being human, but then you get discriminated against in all kinds of ways. I’m sure you can understand that, Doc. :cut_of_meat: :yum:

Not as well as our resident space lizard. At least I’m an earthling.

Ouch!
Is the Earthling Supremacist title still vacant, @yyy?

I didn’t know it was 50% in cages. Are you sure that’s correct? That’s way higher than I remembered. Is this also including just small homes or actual cages?

Yes both of them have issues, some of it is partly just a lack of land in HK. But as for attracting foreign skilled talents, both of them do a far greater job than Taiwan for a reason. There are obviously many reasons but most people coming there earning on the top brackets of income can probably look past smaller homes.