hey how come no “Indian” :x , after all there are a billion of us on the planet
looks like not may of us in Taiwan
hey how come no “Indian” :x , after all there are a billion of us on the planet
looks like not may of us in Taiwan
Taiwan is not a country. Therefore “Taiwan” cannot be considered a nationality.
For those who would say that the “Republic of China” is a country, that doesn’t carry any weight either. Here is the analysis for those of you who never studied history.
pre December 1949: the ROC was the recognized government of China
post December 1949: the ROC was the recognized government-in-exile of China
post December 1979: the ROC was the non-recognized government-in-exile of China
[quote=“jimmy”]Here is the analysis for those of you who never studied history.
pre December 1949: the ROC was the recognized government of China
post December 1949: the ROC was the recognized government-in-exile of China
post December 1979: the ROC was the non-recognized government-in-exile of China[/quote]
:shock: Thank you for enlightening us with that flawless historical analysis. You’ve really shed a bright light onto what was previously a confusingly dark set of circumstances.
One and only, I grew up with Chinese Value–Inherited from the Tang dinasty. No western devalue nor Taiwan’s flue…
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If Taiwan is not a country then what is it? By most definable criteria Taiwan is a country.
Taiwan is a de-facto country. That should satisfy everybody. The cai-niao above is just a PRC sponsored troll.
Dane for Denmark.
I believe that I am the only Dane posting here, sonoo need to add it to the poll.
I’ll get in early and say that I honestly didn’t believe there’d be so few South Africans and so many Americans .
The number of South Africans on Segue is not indicative of the number of South Africans in Taiwan.
I wonder why.
What? They can’t sapeak English !! Joke mate.
So, where’s the other New Zealander?
English to the roots of my hair, but looking forward to seeing my British nationality subsumed in European supranationality.
I am South African. Sometimes when I think of Cape Town, the longing is so intense I want to cry.
Adding to my nostalgia is the recent spate of travel shows about my fair city.
Today, however, came this shocking news.
Click here
Chicago in the '20s, at its very worst, experienced nothing quite so alarming.
I am fortunate that the world is a smaller place, allowing me to live in relative safety in a far off land.
Intellectuals snigger at geographic loyalty but somehow where one is raised is a large part of who one is.
My heart will always tell me who I am–that little boy looking up at Table Mountain as the clouds roll over it, as the wind whips up white horses on Table Bay, and as the blue sky is as far as I can see. That is who I am. I am not a political idea–I, my freinds, am African.
Yes, who is the other Sout Piel?
Amos, No worries. Good one.
[quote=“jimmy”]Taiwan is not a country. Therefore “Taiwan” cannot be considered a nationality.
For those who would say that the “Republic of China” is a country, that doesn’t carry any weight either. Here is the analysis for those of you who never studied history.
pre December 1949: the ROC was the recognized government of China
post December 1949: the ROC was the recognized government-in-exile of China
post December 1979: the ROC was the non-recognized government-in-exile of China[/quote]
nation != state
taiwan might not be a recognized political entity in a lot of the world, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a nation.
history’s useless if you don’t understand the intricacies of language.
If “nation” means “state,” what is a “nation state?”
One of the intricacies of the English language, as I’ve pointed out to you several times before, Flipper, is that the first letter of a sentence or a proper noun is written in the upper case.
Uppercase, according to the book of “Punctuation” is the oldest punctuation. It is used to draw the reader’s attention. In ancient books, the first letter is not only capitalized, but also highly ornamented and each sentence is separated by another ornamented separator. Today we have only “space” which is also one of the basic ingredients in English punctuations.
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If “nation” means “state,” what is a “nation state?”[/quote]
State is a term of international law which generally refers to those groups of people which have acquired international recognition as an independent country and which have four characteristics; permanent and large population with, generally, a common language; a defined and distinct territory; a sovereign government with effective control; and a capacity to enter into relations with other states (i.e. recognized by other states). The USA, Canada and China are examples of states. States are the primary subjects of international law. The United Nations is comprised of all the states of the world. Some large states have subdivided into smaller units each having limited legislative powers normally restricted to subjects which are more properly regulated at a local, rather than a national level. Thus, the states of the USA are not really “states” under international law. It is common for the general public and English dictionaries to use the word “nations” to refer to what international law calls "states."
Perhaps flipper is simply taking peotic license. Wasn’t it e.e. cummings who didn’t capitalize words?
And “nationality” technically refers not to state citizenship, but to something closer to “ethnicity.” Or perhaps the Chinese minzu, except that as far as I know, this word is chiefly used for Chinese subject (“minority”) peoples.
Perhaps some of you remember the Soviet usage, in which “Jewish” was the name of a nationality. I think Americans avoided this usage because way back, they preferred to view themselves as a new “race” (using the language of the 19th century) separate from the British or European “races.” Thus their country was therefore a nation-state proper, and not simply a breakaway colony. This is obviously no longer the guiding principle and most Americans turn out to have a primary identity–a “nationality”, if you will–as white, black, Mexican, something like that.
Meanwhile in Belgium the major divisions are linguistic, and increasingly (with the rise of Islam) also confessional. But these amount to the same thing: ethnic markers.
By way of illustration, Mother Teresa was an Albanian national but held Indian citizenship (and was born in the Turkish-controlled Ottoman Empire).
in case there was any confusion, “!=” means “not equal to”. nation does not necessarily denote a political entity, while state does. a nation-state is a state comprised of one nationality as opposed to serveral.
I come from a town of 181 people…I think you need to have an “Okie” option on your voting board. That or a “Hee-Haw” option.
Is “South East Asian” a kind of nationality?