# What now? Another food scare, food recall? **URL:** \ **Category:** Living in Taiwan\ **Tags:** foodsafety\ **Created:** [April 1, 2015, 5:16am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242 "2015-04-01T05:16:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Belgian\_Pie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Belgian\_Pie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Belgian_Pie)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 5:16am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/1 "2015-04-01T05:16:06Z")
[Another food scandal brewing](http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2015/04/01/2003614902) What is with these companies wanting to use industrial grade stuff to put into food …GREED! ---
**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 6:12am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/2 "2015-04-01T06:12:55Z")
It is like the sixth food scandal this year so far, actually. Makes you want to resort to imports only… oops, can’t, as they are being inspected and taxed to death. So it is buy local or don’t eat. ---
**Author:** ![Mucha\_Man](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Mucha\_Man](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mucha_Man)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 6:14am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/3 "2015-04-01T06:14:10Z")
> [@Belgian\_Pie](#): > > [Another food scandal brewing](http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2015/04/01/2003614902) > > What is with these companies wanting to use industrial grade stuff to put into food …GREED! And you want me to return to Taiwan? ---
**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 6:18am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/4 "2015-04-01T06:18:54Z")
> [@Mucha\_Man](#): > > > [@Belgian\_Pie](#): > > > > [Another food scandal brewing](http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2015/04/01/2003614902) > > > > What is with these companies wanting to use industrial grade stuff to put into food …GREED! > > And you want me to return to Taiwan? Or take us the whole lot back to Vancouver! ---
**Author:** ![Belgian\_Pie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Belgian\_Pie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Belgian_Pie)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 7:13am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/5 "2015-04-01T07:13:29Z")
> [@Mucha\_Man](#): > > > [@Belgian\_Pie](#): > > > > [Another food scandal brewing](http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2015/04/01/2003614902) > > > > What is with these companies wanting to use industrial grade stuff to put into food …GREED! > > And you want me to return to Taiwan? You wanna hike … eat good food and drink excellent beer! Not spiced with ‘gourmet powder’! ---
**Author:** ![mad\_masala](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mad_masala/32/182103_2.png) [@mad\_masala](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/mad_masala)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 7:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/6 "2015-04-01T07:34:54Z")
More shit… ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 8:16am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/7 "2015-04-01T08:16:01Z")
From the TT article linked above: [quote]Lin Yu-fen said edible magnesium carbonate is a legitimate food additive primarily used to absorb moisture in seasoning powders. “However, magnesium carbonate that is intended for industrial applications could contain heavy metals such as lead and arsenic because it is less refined. Long-term consumption of the substance can lead to liver and renal impairment,” she said.[/quote] You might wonder what sort of severe response adding such poison to foods would receive? Here’s your answer: > [@](#): > > [Yi Hsing proprietor Lin Chung-chu (林中柱)] was released on NT$50,000 bail Sometimes I think I just need to leave this place. Guy ---
**Author:** ![nonredneck](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/48db29/32.png) [@nonredneck](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/nonredneck)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 9:10am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/8 "2015-04-01T09:10:33Z")
Tainted food is probably the real reason Taiwan has such a high rate of cancer. ---
**Author:** ![mad\_masala](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mad_masala/32/182103_2.png) [@mad\_masala](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/mad_masala)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 9:16am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/9 "2015-04-01T09:16:34Z")
> [@nonredneck](#): > > Tainted food is probably the real reason Taiwan has such a high rate of cancer. +1. Or perhaps +100. that and poluted air and water. ---
**Author:** ![Gain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Gain)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 11:13am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/10 "2015-04-01T11:13:46Z")
There’s never gonna be an end, is there? ![](http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130808210140/mlp/images/e/e2/I'm_outta_here!.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Novaspes](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Novaspes](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Novaspes)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/11 "2015-04-01T14:43:33Z")
When stuff like this comes out, which lately is every other week, I wonder where all the fine ladies and gentleman idolizing Taiwan’s food are and what they think. ---
**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/12 "2015-04-02T02:19:08Z")
> [@Gain](#): > > There’s never gonna be an end, is there? > ![](http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130808210140/mlp/images/e/e2/I%27m_outta_here!.gif) Nope. Let’s say it is complicated. Like this news: > [@](#): > > A rectal surgeon has attributed the recent death of a 17-year-old boy from colorectal cancer to his daily consumption of sausages, which contain nitrates that can be converted into cancer-causing nitrosamines in the body. > > Changhua Christian Hospital’s Division of Colon and Rectal Surgery physician Huang Shuan-yuan (黃玄遠) said the teen, nicknamed Hsiao Shan (小杉), had been eating barbecued sausages every day since he was 12 years old before seeking medical attention for an unusual abdominal pain some years ago. > > “As Hsian Shan had been experiencing severe abdominal pain, a complete colonoscopy on him was ordered in accordance with hospital protocols that dictate such an examination should be conducted on children and teenagers only if they have a family history or experience serious symptoms,” Huang said. > > Huang said he was astonished to discover that Hsiao Shan had developed stage-three colorectal cancer, given his young age and lack of family history. He later attributed the 17-year-old’s illness to his excessive and long-term intake of barbecued foods, especially sausages. > > Hsiao Shan subsequently underwent surgeries and chemotherapy, but died recently after the cancer spread to his lymph nodes, Huang said. 😢 First of all, aside from the parents’ responsibility to monitor a healthy, varied diet, my question is what the heck is in those sausages?! I mean, in the West we do have nitrate in our sausages and bologna and salami and we may have one stuff of that kind every day. We do have high rates of colon cancer but a kid dead in less than 4 years eating that?! ---
**Author:** ![Mucha\_Man](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Mucha\_Man](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mucha_Man)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 2:52am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/13 "2015-04-02T02:52:38Z")
> [@Novaspes](#): > > When stuff like this comes out, which lately is every other week, I wonder where all the fine ladies and gentleman idolizing Taiwan’s food are and what they think. I know. I am disgusted with food promoting articles on Taiwan these days, as if the scandals never happened. I have argued with a few food writers about this but their attitude has been that this is a global problem so meh. I really don’t even know how I will approach this next year with the update to the Taiwan Lonely Planet. My editors will have a fit if we emphasize the problem too much. ---
**Author:** ![antarcticbeech](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/antarcticbeech/32/94_2.png) [@antarcticbeech](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/antarcticbeech)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/14 "2015-04-02T03:00:57Z")
Tainted ‘stomach powder’. > [@](#): > > Jen Sheng (人生製藥) has become the latest firm to be added to the tainted-medicine scandal after it was allegedly found to be illegally adding industrial calcium carbonate (碳酸鈣) to a well-known stomach powder, Cheng Shing Tai’s (鄭杏泰) Weidalon (胃達樂散), said Changhua officials last night. [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national/national-news/2015/04/02/432612/Weidalon-found.htm](http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national/national-news/2015/04/02/432612/Weidalon-found.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Belgian\_Pie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Belgian\_Pie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Belgian_Pie)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 3:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/15 "2015-04-02T03:47:44Z")
These sausages have lot’s of fat (up to 60%), sugar and nitrates to keep color … and look fresh. ---
**Author:** ![wudjamahuh](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/ec9cab/32.png) [@wudjamahuh](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/wudjamahuh)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/16 "2015-04-02T03:50:10Z")
I always want to scold and slap penny pinching news ignoring dimwits I see at Costco purchasing “High Quality Milk” Maybe they don’t know that the producers of this milk have been busted twice recently for their unfit for human consumption cooking oils. Maybe they do know this, and they’re pleased to ignore it to save $20. It seems to be that as long as the locals are so quick to forget and forgive in exchange for price reductions and promotions, these companies will have no motivation to change their ways. ---
**Author:** ![headhonchoII](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@headhonchoII](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/headhonchoII)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 4:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/17 "2015-04-02T04:51:47Z")
> [@antarcticbeech](#): > > Tainted ‘stomach powder’. > > > [@](#): > > > > Jen Sheng (人生製藥) has become the latest firm to be added to the tainted-medicine scandal after it was allegedly found to be illegally adding industrial calcium carbonate (碳酸鈣) to a well-known stomach powder, Cheng Shing Tai’s (鄭杏泰) Weidalon (胃達樂散), said Changhua officials last night. > > [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national/national-news/2015/04/02/432612/Weidalon-found.htm](http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national/national-news/2015/04/02/432612/Weidalon-found.htm) Pure greed but doesn’t surprise me, just won’t pay more money for the food grade. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![nonredneck](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/48db29/32.png) [@nonredneck](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/nonredneck)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 4:58am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/18 "2015-04-02T04:58:13Z")
> [@wudjamahuh](#): > > I always want to scold and slap penny pinching news ignoring dimwits I see at Costco purchasing “High Quality Milk” > > Maybe they don’t know that the producers of this milk have been busted twice recently for their unfit for human consumption cooking oils. Maybe they do know this, and they’re pleased to ignore it to save $20. It seems to be that as long as the locals are so quick to forget and forgive in exchange for price reductions and promotions, these companies will have no motivation to change their ways. Costco stopping importing California milk. Is there another brand one can buy? I don’t know what brand is safe. ---
**Author:** ![Gain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Gain)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 5:03am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/19 "2015-04-02T05:03:02Z")
> [@Mucha Man](#): > > [quote=“Novaspes”]When stuff like this comes out, which lately is every other week, I wonder where all the fine ladies and gentleman idolizing Taiwan’s food are and what they think. I know. I am disgusted with food promoting articles on Taiwan these days, as if the scandals never happened. I have argued with a few food writers about this but their attitude has been that this is a global problem so meh. I really don’t even know how I will approach this next year with the update to the Taiwan Lonely Planet. My editors will have a fit if we emphasize the problem too much.[/quote] :loco: ---
**Author:** ![nonredneck](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/48db29/32.png) [@nonredneck](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/nonredneck)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 5:28am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242/20 "2015-04-02T05:28:33Z")
> [@Gain](#): > > [quote=“Muzha Man”][quote=“Novaspes”]When stuff like this comes out, which lately is every other week, I wonder where all the fine ladies and gentleman idolizing Taiwan’s food are and what they think. I know. I am disgusted with food promoting articles on Taiwan these days, as if the scandals never happened. I have argued with a few food writers about this but their attitude has been that this is a global problem so meh. I really don’t even know how I will approach this next year with the update to the Taiwan Lonely Planet. My editors will have a fit if we emphasize the problem too much.[/quote] :loco:[/quote] Doesn’t Taiwan bribe Lonely planet? I read this article about how great Taiwan’s food is. [lonelyplanet.com/taiwan/taip … wonderland](http://www.lonelyplanet.com/taiwan/taipei/travel-tips-and-articles/taiwan-a-secret-foodie-wonderland) At the bottom is this note [emphasis is mine] Megan travelled to Taiwan with support from the Taiwan Ministry for Foreign Affairs. When Lonely Planet contributors receive assistance from travel providers such as tourist boards, airlines, and so on to conduct first-hand research, we retain our editorial independence at all times, and never accept anything in return for positive coverage. My first reaction is b_llsh_t. The fact that the trip was paid for by the Taiwanese government indicates they bought off Lonely Planet in exchange for positive coverage (no mention of food scandals, sanitary conditions) [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-now-another-food-scare-food-recall/86242.md?page=2)